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03-28-2012, 12:57 PM
|  | Esteemed Nitpicker | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away | | | Anytime an innocent man is convicted, a guilty man is free. Unless they're convicted of another crime. | 
03-28-2012, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by colcifer Anytime an innocent man is convicted, a guilty man is free. Unless they're convicted of another crime. | No, the guilty person is still innocent of that particular crime. It happens more than most of us realize when a prisoner is found innocent, and the real culprit was already in jail for another crime. The fact that the crook was already put away does not make the innocent person any less falsely convicted and incarcerated.
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03-28-2012, 01:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada | | | Innocent person convicted without a doubt. | 
03-28-2012, 01:45 PM
|  | Online | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sunapee, New Hampshire | | | The guilty walking free bothers me more.
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03-28-2012, 02:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA | | | Blackstone's Formulation--
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." | 
03-28-2012, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 The guilty walking free bothers me more.
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03-28-2012, 02:21 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Santa Cruz CA | | | Conviction is about reasonable doubt. I would rather not convict someone guilty if there is a chance I'm wrong. Convicting someone without a doubt who is innocent is bad for the justuce system. | 
03-28-2012, 02:45 PM
|  | Esteemed Nitpicker | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese No, the guilty person is still innocent of that particular crime. It happens more than most of us realize when a prisoner is found innocent, and the real culprit was already in jail for another crime. The fact that the crook was already put away does not make the innocent person any less falsely convicted and incarcerated. | I was referring to factual innocence and guilt. I have no idea what that last sentence has to do with my post.
But I posted without reading the whole thread; who am I to judge?  | 
03-29-2012, 12:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Istanbul | | | Innocent person in jail. For the other case, there's always vigilante justice in extreme cases.
Cut loose a serial killer by mistake and see how long it takes. But this time, a relative of a murdered person will go into jail, like an innocent person in jail, but won't be completely innocent. Hmmm...It's a messy situation.
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03-29-2012, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ5150 The guilty walking free bothers me more.
-Mike | Why is that? I'm not trying to devalue your belief any; I'm honestly curious why.
For the record, I would rather see the guilty walk. There will be more chances to catch them; for the wrongfully convicted there are no second chances.
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03-29-2012, 03:21 AM
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Because what this thread really needs is a pole...uh, poll.
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03-29-2012, 10:18 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California | | | Any opinions on whether the wrongfully convicted should get compensation or assistance reintegrating back to the "society" that put them in prison in the first place?
IMO, yes. Our society uses a jury or judge to determine guilt or innocence. They are our representative and as such we should take responsibility for their decisions.
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03-29-2012, 10:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bassguppy Any opinions on whether the wrongfully convicted should get compensation or assistance reintegrating back to the "society" that put them in prison in the first place?
IMO, yes. Our society uses a jury or judge to determine guilt or innocence. They are our representative and as such we should take responsibility for their decisions. | I think compensation is only fair since anyone set free has lost years of wages and possible career advancement. Obviously time and personal losses cannot really be compensated, but a pile money will take some sting away.
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03-29-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese I think compensation is only fair since anyone set free has lost years of wages and possible career advancement. Obviously time and personal losses cannot really be compensated, but a pile money will take some sting away. | +1: In some cases there should also be investigations as to possible prosecutorial & judicial misconduct, IMO. | 
03-29-2012, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Unrepresented A guilty party unpunished = one unjust act.
An innocent person punished = two unjust acts. | That's what I was thinking. I remember reading an article years ago about a former prosecutor that helped convict what turned out to be an innocent man. Although he was only doing his job and doing it apparently well with the evidence stacked up against the non guilty party, the prosecutor committed suicide, unable to live with the fact that he put a guy away for 15 years. A lose lose situation. | 
03-29-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 6jase5 That's what I was thinking. I remember reading an article years ago about a former prosecutor that helped convict what turned out to be an innocent man. Although he was only doing his job and doing it apparently well with the evidence stacked up against the non guilty party, the prosecutor committed suicide, unable to live with the fact that he put a guy away for 15 years. A lose lose situation. | Lawyering has got to be pretty tough on both sides, especially in regards to criminal cases.
Id hate to be the guy to wrongfully convict an innocent man just as much as Id hate to defend the man I know to be guilty.
I watched Primal Fear last weekend, and I now believe that whenever a lawyer is not in the courtroom they are drinking heavily.
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03-29-2012, 03:05 PM
|  | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | | Innocent person wrongly convicted, also why I'm not for the death penalty, too many people unable to afford a decent lawyer were executed.
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03-29-2012, 03:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | One way or the other, I think its safe to say that are all bothered by injustice!
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03-29-2012, 03:12 PM
|  | In the deep end | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX | | | An innocent person being convicted is worse, IMO. | 
03-29-2012, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Unrepresented A guilty party unpunished = one unjust act.
An innocent person punished = two unjust acts. | Couldn't have worded it any better myself.
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