Breakdowns! Why do people hate them so much?

[rbnrbn]

They are most prevelant in the metalcore genre, which doesnt help its cause - for some. Yet, from my experience breakdowns are what people seem to hate, or turn their noses up to. What is it about breakdowns in aformentioned genre that people despise?! Is it possibly an easy way of getting out of a hard patch of music?

Any answers...?

[Captain Chaos]

What is a breakdown?

[rbnrbn]

Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

What is a breakdown?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakdown_%28-core%29

familiar?

[Jared Lash]

I like breakdowns

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Oh, and check the great breakdown at 2:16 of this vid.

[Baryonyx]

Because they are a cliché and metalcore is terrible

[bongomania]

Breakdowns are annoying because then you have to stay up all night rubbing her shoulders and telling her she's not crazy, again.

[SoComSurfing]

Originally Posted by bongomania

Breakdowns are annoying because then you have to stay up all night rubbing her shoulders and telling her she's not crazy, again.

[/thread]

This may be the #1 post of the year so far.

[rbnrbn]

Originally Posted by Chris2112

Because they are a cliché and metalcore is terrible

they are a cliche in a genre you hate. What do you hate about metalcore? Im not interrogating, just friendly curiosity. It seems to me that metalcore is the marmite of all genres!

[*smb]

Originally Posted by Chris2112

Because they are a cliché and metalcore is terrible

Big +1.

Metalcore lacks the balls and real skill of musicians in heavy metal and lacks the attitude and style and lyrical quality of '80s hardcore.

[Baryonyx]

Originally Posted by rbnrbn

they are a cliche in a genre you hate. What do you hate about metalcore? Im not interrogating, just friendly curiosity. It seems to me that metalcore is the marmite of all genres!

The cheese, the dull song structures, I can't find a thing I like about it. Unless "my last serenade" by KSE counts as a metalcore song. That was a good tune.

[rbnrbn]

Originally Posted by Chris2112

The cheese, the dull song structures, I can't find a thing I like about it. Unless "my last serenade" by KSE counts as a metalcore song. That was a good tune.

i gotta agree. The image of most metalcore bands is terrible. Kinda a role reversal from the 80's. Remember the days...mincing to Kiss in ya mums lycra leggins, surely some of ya's must have.

Killswitch are class. My curse, off of their latest album is a great track, i advise.

[Stanley Design]

Originally Posted by TheBigO

Oh, and check the great breakdown at 2:16 of this vid.

Hahaha that one was sweet.

Breakdowns are most seen in hardcore music. A lot of metalcore bands use them because they are a mix of metal and hardcore, obviously. Saying they are overdone is like saying solos are overdone, or chorus's. That's retarded. It makes the music what it is. There are a lot of more "tech" metalcore bands out there if that's what you judge the music you listen to by. Personally, I find the best breakdowns are in the newer styles of death-core like Despised Icon, because they are so sweet and tech that when they break it down it's so freakin' heavy that you have to dig it.

To each their own though.

[rbnrbn]

Originally Posted by Todd Stanley

Hahaha that one was sweet.

cant say ive heard of these before. Funny though! haha!

[Jeremy Crockett]

Because they usually happen in the rain, on a grade with no cell phone reception.

[Bob Clayton]

those who can, play.
those who can't, play metalcore.

[SoComSurfing]

Originally Posted by rbnrbn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakdown_%28-core%29

familiar?

Are you referring to this section?

Hardcore punk and metal

The breakdown in the hardcore punk and metal genres is where a band will usually play in half time, giving the feeling of a slower tempo. It is considered by some to be an important element in many songs of these genres and central to many bands, quite a few of which eschew traditional verse-chorus-verse songwriting. When played live, breakdowns are usually responded to by the audience by hardcore dancing or moshing. Vocalists also tend to throw in a single, repeated statement throughout the breakdown, giving those who are not dancing or moshing an opportunity to sing along. Many metalcore bands rely on having memorable breakdowns rather than memorable choruses and critics often accuse bands of placing too many breakdowns in one song.

The drums are usually simple with several cymbals and snare on the third beat. The cymbals are usually a china or fast crash with fourths or more common, eighths. In metal, the guitars play a set of rhythmically oriented riffs, usually on open strings so as to achieve the lowest and heaviest sound for which the guitars are tuned, so the dancers in the audience can respond effectively. Sometimes, these are contrasted with either dissonant chords, such as minor 2nd intervals, or pinch harmonics. These riffs are often accented by the drummer with double kick bass drums that follow the pattern of the guitars.

In hardcore punk, breakdowns tend to be more upbeat, using the floor toms and snares to create a faster, 'rolling' rhythm. This provides audience members with an opportunity to skank, mosh, or circle pit.

If so, thaty may possibly be THE SINGLE MOST RETARDED Wiki entry I have EVER read.

[no1likesme]

Originally Posted by Bob Clayton

those who can, play.
those who can't, play metalcore.

metal is just as gay

[Jeremy Crockett]

Originally Posted by SoComSurfing

If so, that may possibly be THE SINGLE MOST RETARDED Wiki entry I have EVER read.

Think of the enormity of that statement... bask in it.

[EricF]

Originally Posted by bongomania

Breakdowns are annoying because then you have to stay up all night rubbing her shoulders and telling her she's not crazy, again.

LMFAO!!! Nice one, bongo. Unfortunately, I'm all too familair with what you're talking about.