Bruce Ivins - guilty or not?

Relic · #1 08-05-2008, 09:42 AM

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...-ivins_anthrax

I'm no conspiracy theory type, but...something's just not sitting right with me about this one.

First the FBI hounds the hell out of Hatfill, then clears him, next Ivins commits suicide as they're supposedly getting close to pegging him....
weird obsessions with the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority, leading him to drive all the way to Princeton NJ to mail the anthrax from near a KKG storage building..I just dunno..
I'm curious to hear other's thoughts on this whole thing.

Bass Boy · #2 08-05-2008, 10:54 AM

Interesting. Remember David Kelly in the UK?

hbarcat · #3 08-05-2008, 12:19 PM

Insufficient data to form justifiable conclusion.

buzzbass · #4 08-05-2008, 12:28 PM

I seem to remember a guy named Micheal Jewels going through a similar situation. look him up. Our govt. loves to present "boogiemen" to us, to make us feel safer about situations that they either cannot, or will not, explain to us. That being said, this guy does look to be a bit of a loose cannon, from what I've seen in the media.

four2oh · #5 08-05-2008, 12:35 PM

fallguy.. i believe more were involved in this conspiracy. look for the shooter on the grassy knoll.

jomahu · #6 08-05-2008, 01:11 PM

uh....interesting timing is all i'm gonna say....

fenderhutz · #7 08-05-2008, 01:13 PM

He's dead. If they don't have another suspect, just let the dude die. Are they going to flog the corpse or what at this point?

Relic · #8 08-05-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jomahu

uh....interesting timing is all i'm gonna say....

Yeah, no kidding..

sevenorchids · #9 08-05-2008, 01:30 PM

I'd be interested to see how anyone here would react by being accused of something like this, tried in the media, having your professional life destroyed, your private life aired to anyone interested, etc.

Let's see how many of us really want to be around after having that done to us.

He might have been guilty, might not have been. But I wouldn't wish the treatment that he received upon even my worst enemies.

peterbright · #10 08-05-2008, 03:56 PM

I'd have to see a lot more to believe this fairy tale.

doctorjazz · #11 08-05-2008, 05:26 PM

I don't know. Don't particularly care either, but I've always thought the anthrax mailings looked more like the work of crazy white people than Middle Eastern terrorists.

Bard2dbone · #12 08-05-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzbass

I seem to remember a guy named Micheal Jewels going through a similar situation. look him up. Our govt. loves to present "boogiemen" to us, to make us feel safer about situations that they either cannot, or will not, explain to us. That being said, this guy does look to be a bit of a loose cannon, from what I've seen in the media.

Do you mean Richard Jewell?

I remember noticing that decades of handsome leading men in movies seemed to have convinced the public at large that ugly people can't be heroes.So therefore, when an ugly hero comes forward, he must be fake. If he's fake and he found the bomb, he must have planted it. He weighs the same as a duck so he must be made of wood! A witch! A witch! Burn him!

Like that?

buzzbass · #13 08-06-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bard2dbone

Do you mean Richard Jewell?

I remember noticing that decades of handsome leading men in movies seemed to have convinced the public at large that ugly people can't be heroes.So therefore, when an ugly hero comes forward, he must be fake. If he's fake and he found the bomb, he must have planted it. He weighs the same as a duck so he must be made of wood! A witch! A witch! Burn him!

Like that?

yeah, that's him. that poor guy had his life ruined, for no good reason.

jomahu · #14 08-06-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz

I don't know. Don't particularly care either, but I've always thought the anthrax mailings looked more like the work of crazy white people than Middle Eastern terrorists.

interesting distinction

Bass Boy · #15 08-06-2008, 02:44 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/..._investigation

Relic · #16 08-06-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Boy

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/..._investigation

Oh dear god could this get any more ridiculous!??

the convenience of this all is so utterly blatant that maybe it's all true?

bradjonesbass · #17 08-06-2008, 03:08 PM

question everything. especially official government explanations. I will go to my grave believing Vincent Foster was murdered by persons very high up in the Federal Government. I don't believe for a second this guy was the only person involved in the anthrax mailings, and I'm questioning whether he was involved at all. Does not add up.