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12-22-2009, 08:38 PM
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Can a person go from being what many would consider scum turn they're life around?
And please with all due respect,can we not make any reference(s) to Chris Henry.
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12-22-2009, 08:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fayetteville/NC | | | sure why not.
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12-22-2009, 08:42 PM
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12-22-2009, 08:46 PM
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12-22-2009, 09:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC | | | Yes. It's the exception rather than the norm, but it happens.
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12-22-2009, 09:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx | | | Yes, lots of people to to prison for something like a few DWI's. That doesn't mean they're a bad person, just that they can't handle hard drinks.
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12-22-2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz Yes. It's the exception rather than the norm, but it happens. | Exactly. I've known it to happen, and I am a very hard-hearted person when it comes to judging people who were once scum.
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12-22-2009, 09:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Waco, TX | | | Absolutely. Someone has already posted in this thread that I think is probably living proof of such.
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12-22-2009, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz Yes. It's the exception rather than the norm, but it happens. |
QFT.
I've seen some people surprise me, in a good way. I've also seen people completely disappoint me, by changing for the worse.
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12-22-2009, 11:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada | | | Yes. If the person really wants to change, that he is ready to put the efforts needed for such a change to happen, of course it can happen. I've changed a lot from what I were before, for the better of course. It's not easy, but it's well worth it.
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12-22-2009, 11:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IL | | | absolutely possible. I did.
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12-23-2009, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommygunn Yes, lots of people to to prison for something like a few DWI's. That doesn't mean they're a bad person, just that they can't handle hard drinks.
my 2 cents | no vomitting on the carpet means you can't handle hard drinks. being pulled over for drunk driving means your a reckless, near sighted moron who's either too stupid or too lazy to figure out a safe way to get home.
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12-23-2009, 12:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida | | | Yes, in my line of work I see it everyday though most do not. The ones that change only change because they honestly want to.
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12-23-2009, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Number27 no vomitting on the carpet means you can't handle hard drinks. being pulled over for drunk driving means your a reckless, near sighted moron who's either too stupid or too lazy to figure out a safe way to get home. | Getting a DUI does not make you reckless, lazy, a near sighted moron, or even stupid. I and many people that got DUI's are nothing like you just described. Getting a DUI means you made a bad error in judgement.
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12-23-2009, 12:14 AM
| | *******er Emeritus(does anyone remember that? No?) | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Houston, Texas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Number27 no vomitting on the carpet means you can't handle hard drinks. being pulled over for drunk driving means your a reckless, near sighted moron who's either too stupid or too lazy to figure out a safe way to get home. |
Well. Sort of. Most people don't realize all it usually takes is two or so beers in under an hour and one is legally over the limit. I'm willing to wager my car that 95% of the people who consume alcohol on talkbass can drive a car with no problem with two beers in their system in that time frame.
Case in point - on Saturday I drank five beers over the course of about 3-4 hours, and then waited an additional two hours before I left. At the party, the host has a breathalyzer, and told everyone that people who didn't pass weren't going to leave - I blew a .07, beating the legal limit by .01. I had felt perfectly fine to drive for quite a while. I got home perfectly fine, and I definitely could have gotten home even the two hours prior. But since I enjoy playing Johnny Law Abider, I waited like a good boy.
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12-23-2009, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cassanova Getting a DUI does not make you reckless, lazy, a near sighted moron, or even stupid. I and many people that got DUI's are nothing like you just described. Getting a DUI means you made a bad error in judgement. | agree to disagree. you say you made a bad error in judgement, i say you were being either reckless, lazy, near sighted, or stupid. i like to use harsher words 
[EDIT] and actually i should probably say ignorant instead of stupid Quote:
Originally Posted by jrthebassguy Well. Sort of. Most people don't realize all it usually takes is two or so beers in under an hour and one is legally over the limit. I'm willing to wager my car that 95% of the people who consume alcohol on talkbass can drive a car with no problem with two beers in their system in that time frame. | oh, no doubt (although i would argue that certain people can't drive a car when they're sober  ) Quote: |
Originally Posted by ... Case in point - on Saturday I drank five beers over the course of about 3-4 hours, and then waited an additional two hours before I left. At the party, the host has a breathalyzer, and told everyone that people who didn't pass weren't going to leave - I blew a .07, beating the legal limit by .01. I had felt perfectly fine to drive for quite a while. I got home perfectly fine, and I definitely could have gotten home even the two hours prior. But since I enjoy playing Johnny Law Abider, I waited like a good boy. | my roomate had a similar situation occur to him: we were drinking at home with some friends and decided to go to a local club. none of us were really drunk, but my roomate was designated DD cuz he'd only had two beers and hadn't had anything for almost 2 hours. well on the way we ran into a sobriety check point, the statie smelt the alcohol on his breath and made him pull over to do the field sobriety test. in the end he took a breathalyzer test and barely passed. scared him "straight" for a while
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12-23-2009, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X Can a person go from being what many would consider scum turn they're life around?
And please with all due respect,can we not make any reference(s) to Chris Henry. | Willingness is the key for anyone to change... |
12-23-2009, 12:35 AM
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Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago - LA | | | People are generally good. Situations cause a lot of bad desicions and then they go to jail. surroundings, society, family, friends, authority's view on you..such and so forth, these are all factors, but in the end it is your actions that cause good or bad.
People can change, but its already been in them since birth I think.
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12-23-2009, 01:18 AM
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12-23-2009, 01:28 AM
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