Capitalism: A love story

[Samthebassist]

Omg...this movie..

Me and me gf were watching this...holy crap

Things this movie made me want to do:
1) become a socialist
2) kill Reagan
3) blow up washington
4) pay cash for everything always forever
5) take money from no one
6) vote for Obama again
7) watch my insurance policies when working for big companies
8) watch the news
9) help the needy
10) give money/items to the less fortunate

Anyone else seen this? It's insane. Darn you Michael Moore!!

[Tat2dHeart]

Sam - Haven't seen this yet. Was part of it filmed in Europe? I think this is the Moore movie that one of my friends was in (by accident).

[JimB52]

This won't last long . . .

[Stinsok]

Made by a very rich Michael Moore.

[Samthebassist]

Originally Posted by Tat2dHeart

Sam - Haven't seen this yet. Was part of it filmed in Europe? I think this is the Moore movie that one of my friends was in (by accident).

Maybe? Don't think so though, it's all about America and our economy and junk

[colcifer]

IBTL!

Edit: Does movie night mean you're not lonely anymore?

[Samthebassist]

Originally Posted by colcifer

IBTL!

Edit: Does movie night mean you're not lonely anymore?

This was yesterday afternoon, so prelonely

[avvie]

Upon it's release, it got a lot of bashing from conservatives as being a socialist propaganda film...mostly by people who never saw it.

As a capitalist, I didn't see it that way at all; I thought he did a fine job of pointing out the obvious flaws in the hybrid system that we have in the US. The failures he depicted in the film weren't failures of capitalism; they were failures caused by government involvement in capitalism. It would be right at home as a page on a Ron Paul fan site.

That might be why 'conservatives' hate it: if you can't bribe your government to be your thug or give you competitive advantage, why bother going into business?

Another subtext I pulled from it: the move towards leftist socialism was not created by Marxists on the march but instead by capitalists themselves.

[Von Felgenhauer]

Ron Paul is one of the few politicians that has predicted our economy failure years ago. Only now people are starting to believe him and his theories.

[Samthebassist]

Originally Posted by avvie

Upon it's release, it got a lot of bashing from conservatives as being a socialist propaganda film...mostly by people who never saw it.

As a capitalist, I didn't see it that way at all; I thought he did a fine job of pointing out the obvious flaws in the hybrid system that we have in the US. The failures he depicted in the film weren't failures of capitalism; they were failures caused by government involvement in capitalism. It would be right at home as a page on a Ron Paul fan site.

That might be why 'conservatives' hate it: if you can't bribe your government to be your thug or give you competitive advantage, why bother going into business?

Another subtext I pulled from it: the move towards leftist socialism was not created by Marxists on the march but instead by capitalists themselves.

Exactly.
I loved this movie, kind of a cold slap of reality for an 18 year old...anyone for that fact.
My grandparents would never see this and if I told them I saw it they'd immediately just think I hated it..cause being related to them, I'm supposed to believe what they do

[THand]

Originally Posted by Von Felgenhauer

Ron Paul is one of the few politicians that has predicted our economy failure years ago. Only now people are starting to believe him and his theories.

I love Ron Paul, but I was stunned when he spoke out against the hit on Bin Ladin. I agree with most of his "don't police the world" politics, but in this case, it was a debt that was due. Speaking as a father with a kid who did a tour in Afghanistan, and is now in Iraq, serving as a flight medic....so I do have a dog in that fight.

[THand]

Originally Posted by avvie

Upon it's release, it got a lot of bashing from conservatives as being a socialist propaganda film...mostly by people who never saw it.

As a capitalist, I didn't see it that way at all; I thought he did a fine job of pointing out the obvious flaws in the hybrid system that we have in the US. The failures he depicted in the film weren't failures of capitalism; they were failures caused by government involvement in capitalism. It would be right at home as a page on a Ron Paul fan site.

That might be why 'conservatives' hate it: if you can't bribe your government to be your thug or give you competitive advantage, why bother going into business?

Another subtext I pulled from it: the move towards leftist socialism was not created by Marxists on the march but instead by capitalists themselves.

I haven't seen this latest flick, but the problem with Moore is he comes off as a hypocrite. Capitalism is why he is rolling in dough. Reminds me of the Al Gore flick, Inconvenient Truth, ....the most inconvenient truth for Al is, he has the biggest carbon footprint of all....but oh yeah, he's important. Did you see all the lights they used at the Earth First concert? Jeez....telling me to change my light bulbs, and then they fire-up enough lumens to be seen from the space-station!

IMO, they are all ego-maniacs, trying to scare the hell out of you so they can pick your pocket.

[tplyons]

Watching now on Netflix... so far I'm not surprised or shocked by anything.

It's a sick, sad world out there.

[jp58]

Originally Posted by avvie

Upon it's release, it got a lot of bashing from conservatives as being a socialist propaganda film...mostly by people who never saw it.

As a capitalist, I didn't see it that way at all; I thought he did a fine job of pointing out the obvious flaws in the hybrid system that we have in the US. The failures he depicted in the film weren't failures of capitalism; they were failures caused by government involvement in capitalism. It would be right at home as a page on a Ron Paul fan site.

That might be why 'conservatives' hate it: if you can't bribe your government to be your thug or give you competitive advantage, why bother going into business?

Another subtext I pulled from it: the move towards leftist socialism was not created by Marxists on the march but instead by capitalists themselves.

+1

Also, I don't care about what Moore or Gore or anyone else has that's making a documentary. The point is not to compare the documentary to its creator (Frankenstein to his monster...), but, rather, to think about the documentary and come up with conclusions based on your own experiences. The entire premise behind a documentary is to bring an issue to light and to be thought-provoking.

[fmoore200]

I have not seen this movie, but there is one thing that has bothered me about Moore's films: they are all very one-sided. He never seems to put anyone who disagrees with his point in his movies. It creates an imbalance that leaves me with a feeling of the bias of a propaganda film instead of a documentary...

[avvie]

Originally Posted by THand

I haven't seen this latest flick, but the problem with Moore is he comes off as a hypocrite. Capitalism is why he is rolling in dough.

You're illustrating my point.

Moore doesn't dislike capitalism. He says himself that the very corporations that he lambastes are funding his movies. This movie doesn't denigrate capitalism... it denigrates corrupt capitalists.

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by fmoore200

there is one thing that has bothered me about Moore's films: they are all very one-sided.

Really? Ya don't say!

[fmoore200]

Originally Posted by spade2you

Really? Ya don't say!

Yes, u guess I did point out the obvious, lol

[Time Monkey]

Its just the usual michael more formula...


30% truth plus 60% allegory plus 10% fear mongering.


I generally treat his films as comedies.

[THand]

Originally Posted by avvie

You're illustrating my point.

Moore doesn't dislike capitalism. He says himself that the very corporations that he lambastes are funding his movies. This movie doesn't denigrate capitalism... it denigrates corrupt capitalists.

Gotcha. I need to watch it.