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Old 01-09-2013, 10:22 AM
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Thank you for all the encouragement. I don't think non-musicians understand how scary this is!
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:00 PM
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I had both sides done. I waited several months in between surgeries. I could not be happier with the results. I would wake up EVERY morning (sometimes in the middle of the night) with that insane tingling, pain and numbness. My left wrist had pain on the thumb side that they weren't sure was due to the CTS. It also cleared up. Those mornings, driving and not being able to feel the steering wheel, having my hands go numb while I was playing, trying all kinds of crap to help the symptoms...they were my daily reality...all hazy memories now.

I don't think anyone can tell you *exactly* what to expect on recovery, not even your doctor. But I can tell you I had my left wrist done a bit more than a year ago. I was gently playing the bass at home after 3 days or so. Part of the suggested recover routine was to wiggle my fingers. I figured I'd wiggle them on the fretboard. I did talk to my doctor about what I was doing, and he was fine with it...everybody is different. I had the surgery on a Monday, and was at band practice the following Wednesday.

I had my right hand done first and had taken a little longer (days) to get back to playing, but looking back, I was dealing with an unknown and going by the doctor's range on time, so I might have simply approached things more tentatively. There was also a difference in the return of strength between my right and left hands. With my right hand, while I had full dexterity/capability in a couple of weeks, it took about 2-3 months for me to have 100% strength. That didn't affect playing though, it had to do with gripping and lifting in some limited set of circumstances. So, it was more or less something I would notice from time to time; it's not like you need all of the strength your hand has all of the time.

Good luck. If your suffering is anything like mine (a lot of people are worse than I was), I'm sure you'll be happy in the end. Hopefully you'll be happily surprised with the recovery time.
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CTS survivor. HA!

I had it done in my right wrist back in the early 90's. I was a tin banger, and my first indication, other than the tingling, was my baby finger feeling like it was on fire. Scared the bejeepers out of my co-worker when I suddenly yanked my hand back from the power roller we were using. He thought I got my hand jammed.
Next indication was when I "threw" my hammer at a different guy in the shop while putting a piece of duct together. I lost total feeling and couldn't feel the hammer in my hand.

Had the surgery done, and was out of work for ~ 6 weeks. Had to do the wiggle exercises as well.
I still get the ocassional issue, but nowhere near as bad as it was.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:54 PM
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I talked to this guy at the gym who had two slits on his wrists. He was in his early 20's. He got CTS from working a jackhammer doing road repair work. He was lifting heavy poundage so I guess the surgery was successful.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:03 PM
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:19 AM
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As it was explained to me, the carpal tunnel, when restricted, affects the thumb and first two fingers ONLY. There is another nerve "tunnel" in the elbow that causes similar symptoms in the ring and pinky. They have a surgery for that too.

I have nerve damage from early onset DDD (Degenerative Disc Disease). The disc between c5 and c6 completely "dissolved" between two MRIs I had done three months apart. At some point the nerves coming out of my spine there had compressed and necessitated the fusion of c5 and 6 with a bone graft (this was two years ago, long after the CT surgery). They told me that I "might" get full use of my hand (right) over time. Hasn't happened yet, and I am no where near the bassist I was just a few years ago. My fingers are sluggish and my thumb will not fully extend. I have to be very careful with hammers, chainsaws, etc. It is something I am adapting to. I bring this up because they initially thought that the nerves through my elbow were causing it...
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:49 AM
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Go with massage before surgery. Took care of it for me.
Zachoff, thank you so much for mentioning this! I was hoping to respond to this days ago, but I had to do some work-based traveling to do. Now that I'm back, I can take my time to write this.

By the way, I checked out the video and it's pretty much on the money. There are a lot of other techniques that can be employed, but the Massage Nerd is definitely on the right track.

First off, I feel I should establish my bona fides;

Professionally, I've been a certified practicing massage and neuromuscular therapist for the past 18 years. Alongside the standard Swedish Massage curriculum, my school had a strong foundation in Neuromuscular Therapy (NMT: precision pain and trigger point relief), Sports Massage and Flexibility. Pain relief, recuperation and rehabilitation have been, and still are, my specialities…all the way from garden variety repetitive stress to victims of construction accidents. (side note: Anyone let me know if you need some tips dealing with TMJ issues. It's a curse I'm all too familiar with!)

Secondly, I'm not going to give you any absolutes, just suggestions and options. I won't tell you to "ignore your doctor/he's a quack sawbones/I know better/blah blah blah". I'm no doctor and can only make recommendations based on my particular training and professional experience. However, being a syndrome directly affecting the soft tissues does drop it squarely into my field of practice.

In short, you have a serious issue that I've worked on before and I might be able offer some friendly advice.

That being said, I'm hoping, with some input from you, I can get a clearer idea of the problems you're facing and maybe come up with some solutions to keep you from unnecessarily going "under the knife". Not to try to sound scary, but once you take that step, for better or for worse you cannot undo it. My concern is that a serious reduction of tendinous tissue, as well as significant scar tissue, might leave you with less than 100% use and dexterity in the long run.

I'd like to ask some serious questions about your particular brand of CTS, but I'll more than understand if you'd either prefer to respond via PM's (in my business, confidentiality and privacy are crucial) or to just ignore them outright. I won't take it personally since you don't know me from a hole-in-the-wall.

1. What are the overt symptoms?
Pain
Tingling/Burning
Numbness
Decreased Range of Motion (ROM)

2. How long has it been an issue? When did you first notice even the slightest symptoms?

3. Any preceding injuries involving your hands/arms/shoulders?
Childhood injuries count too
Neck/spinal injuries and issues could be part of the greater problem (eg: compensation...you might be surprised at the incredible level of "cause & effect" that goes on in the body)

4. Is there a history of arthritis or other joint-based conditions in your family? Relatedly, do you get flare-ups alongside changes in the weather? (eg: arthritics and people who've had joint surgeries/injuries often feel worse when the humidity increases)

5. What kinds of repetitive stress are your hands/arms/shoulders subjected to? Bass playing falls into the "DUH!!" category, but there are several other forms of stress. What else might be contributing?
Computer work (most people don't realize how much stress "rockin' the mouse" or a bad office chair can cause)
Long-distance driving
Domestic/Household/Workplace cleaning (eg: I've messed up my lower back just by using a large, heavy upright vacuum cleaner too aggressively)
Sports activity (too many to cover here, but lets just say, as an example, there are reasons I call golf and tennis "self-induced whiplash")

That's all I can think off right now. I'll add more to this should I think of anything else relevant. Like I said, feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this outside public view. Even if you don't want to respond, thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope all works out for the best and that whatever path you take is the best for your particular case.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:12 PM
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I had the endoscopic surgery on both of my hands back in 2007 (small incision at the palm of the hand and base of wrist). I'm trying to remember, but the stitches came out after about a week I believe, and once they came out I was playing bass again, though with minor discomfort. It took me about a month to feel ok again..BUT, my surgeries didn't work for me because the CTS was really severe and I walk with crutches which didn't help my recovery.

I'd say you can probably realistically expect about a 2 week recovery. I'm one of the rare people who an issue after surgery and who weren't really helped by it.
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What do you mean by severe CTS? Symptoms or nerve damage?
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:39 PM
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What do you mean by severe CTS? Symptoms or nerve damage?
Both. A lot of times I can't sleep because my arms ache so much. I also have muscle atrophy in my left hand. The fatty muscle below my thumb is almost non-existent on my left hand. But that all came from years of using crutches and the pressure it put on my hands. The surgery usually does work, but I'm one the small percentage it didn't work for.
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I have a little bit of that in my thumb as well but nerve studies show I have very mild nerve damage, my symptoms aren't terrible, but nagging. I am going to try to get it done this month. I really want it to get better, it is so miserable.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:29 PM
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It will probably work for you because you're catching it early enough. Besides all the pressure I put on my wrists my entire life, I worked for 10 years in a job that required a lot of typing/fine hand motor movement which made things worse. Combined of course with playing bass, playing drums etc.. Though now that I've had the surgery drumming and bass actually helps me in a way.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:27 AM
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I wish I could have done it earlier, it had been nearly 10 years. Nobody would operate on it years ago because of how mild it was. I hope the best for you. I hope that nerve regenerates and you get Jaco chops.
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I wish I could have done it earlier, it had been nearly 10 years. Nobody would operate on it years ago because of how mild it was. I hope the best for you. I hope that nerve regenerates and you get Jaco chops.
I honestly don't play bass much these days, mostly just because I'm focused on other things. I started playing guitar and my hand is getting stronger but I don't see the muscle improving much.
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Well today I scheduled the surgery after a session and some gigs to Nashville, I am praying I end up where I need to be or a better bass player...HMG
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Well today I scheduled the surgery after a session and some gigs to Nashville, I am praying I end up where I need to be or a better bass player...HMG
I think you'll be ok. Just take it easy with your recovery.
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You'll be ok. My dad is going for his left hand tomorrow, the right one was a charm. Don't stress too much, it's an easy surgery.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:10 PM
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Had surgery Thursday, and I honestly think I was in more pain before the surgery which is encouraging! I am hopeful!
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Parascopic or incision? I wish you a good recovery.
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