cleaning (germ-free) apt/roomate situation - what to use?

rokkitt · #1 05-13-2010, 10:17 PM

Hi,

I am moving back in with a roomate. I also bought some

I also bought some new furniture off of craigslist. I want to
Make sure that my "area" in the apartment is clean, along
With my new bed and dresser.

What should I use to wipe down the area, and ensure a germ free
Environment?

Also, about 9 months ago, this person I am moving in with
Had an infection that you get from locker rooms and it put him
In the hospital for a week. The infection was the kind that gets
Under your skin and eats away at your skin. He is all better now

But I want to also wipe down the public areas-- kitch and bath.

Any recomendations?

Clorox, warm water and pine sol, lysol, windex, what?

Thanks!

elgecko · #2 05-13-2010, 10:23 PM

Napalm?

Bleach, definitely bleach.

waleross · #3 05-13-2010, 10:27 PM

Raid !!!

sleepytime · #4 05-13-2010, 10:51 PM

* Rubber gloves
* 1-gallon water
* 3/4 cup bleach
* Bucket
* Sponge

Clorox.com

jp58 · #5 05-13-2010, 11:05 PM

Bleach kills not staph, which I'm assuming he had. Actually personal hygiene beats keeping your area clean 9/10 times.

However a 10-1 water to bleach solution never hurt anyone, and it would be ideal in your situation. It should keep nasty stuff from growing in the tub or sink, and transferring to you or your stuff.

rokkitt · #6 05-14-2010, 03:30 AM

"Bleach kills not staph"

What do you mean?

Yes it was a staph infection, now that I remember.

Thanks for your serious answers. I want to be clean at my new home.

So, do you think I will be safe and the area will be safe after I do
The cleanup?

Its ok and safe to live with someone who has or has had a staph infection, correct?

Any doctors in the house that can chime in?

Thanks

Al

hover · #7 05-14-2010, 04:37 AM

Staph infections, most often lately, are picked up IN hospitals...scary...

Dude, seriously, keep a healthy supply of Lysol spray on hand, and frequently spray surfaces before you're in contact...even the odds... I mean, it's not a testament to your friend's cleanliness (or is it?) but if he hasn't taken the preventative measures of cleaning hard surfaces / furniture / bedding, it shouldn't stop you.

I wish you well.

RWP · #8 05-14-2010, 05:37 AM

I heard the research facility where Ebola is tested uses Lysol to clean up.

**HeavyDuty** · #9 05-14-2010, 05:46 AM

Google "MRSA" for acceptable cleaning methods. MRSA is mean stuff, you want to avoid direct contact with it.

jp58 · #10 05-14-2010, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokkitt

"Bleach kills not staph"

What do you mean?

Staph's especially MRSA aren't in the 99.9% of things that lysol, bleach, etc kill. They are in the exception group. Sorry to cause any confusion there man. Aside from MRSA, most staph infections are caused by poor hygiene. I've had MRSA and it is exceptionally nasty, but most staphs aren't bad. In fact, you have staph on your skin right now, it just isn't a bad kind, or it hasn't got food because you are clean.

rokkitt · #11 05-14-2010, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp58

Staph's especially MRSA aren't in the 99.9% of things that lysol, bleach, etc kill. They are in the exception group. Sorry to cause any confusion there man. Aside from MRSA, most staph infections are caused by poor hygiene. I've had MRSA and it is exceptionally nasty, but most staphs aren't bad. In fact, you have staph on your skin right now, it just isn't a bad kind, or it hasn't got food because you are clean.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I think his personal hygeine is fine, but he works in sports during the day.

So maybe he got it from his job.

And, he is using the anti-bacterial hand gel that comes in a pump thingy
That you get at the drugstore....so he is being extra cautious.

I will read about the msra, and will clean with 10 to 1 bleach, and then
Again with some better smealling stuff lolz!

So I'll wipe down things 2x to be on the safe side---

Any other thoughts? Thanks so far.

Allen

RWP · #12 05-14-2010, 06:35 AM

jp58 · #13 05-14-2010, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokkitt

Thanks for clearing that up.

I think his personal hygeine is fine, but he works in sports during the day.

So maybe he got it from his job.

And, he is using the anti-bacterial hand gel that comes in a pump thingy
That you get at the drugstore....so he is being extra cautious.

I will read about the msra, and will clean with 10 to 1 bleach, and then
Again with some better smealling stuff lolz!

So I'll wipe down things 2x to be on the safe side---

Any other thoughts? Thanks so far.

Allen

Chances are it was an isolated incident. Staph isn't permanent and he isn't going to carry MRSA with him to the grave. As long as his doctor believes he is no longer contagious, and he isn't popping up sores, you guys should be fine. If at any time either of you develops sores, both of you need to go see a DR. like yesterday fast. Especially him as it may not have ever went away and staph can cause bad internal damage if left untreated.

Hope all works out for you man.

rokkitt · #14 05-14-2010, 07:19 AM

Thanks. I'm sure it will be fine. Just want my area clean and to be a litle cautious

chondro776 · #15 05-14-2010, 01:40 PM

I was/am unaware that bleach will not kill staph. In fact, I am off to research that, because honestly, I am not sure I can buy that at face value.

(No offense to the poster of said info, but there was no source, etc.)

Research note: According to this, bleach does in fact kill MRSA.
http://www.factsaboutbleach.com/mrsa.html

I would caution against the over-use of antibacterial agents (anti-bac soap especially). Their over use (along w/ antibiotics) is the very mechanism by which MRSA has evolved.

Use stuff that fights bugs mechanically (soap) or bleach. Alcohol is another potential. I have heard more than one nurse swear that Jack Daniels is actually an 'approved' disinfectant in a crisis.

My belly needs disinfecting....

jp58 · #16 05-14-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chondro776

I was/am unaware that bleach will not kill staph. In fact, I am off to research that, because honestly, I am not sure I can buy that at face value.

(No offense to the poster of said info, but there was no source, etc.)

Research note: According to this, bleach does in fact kill MRSA.
http://www.factsaboutbleach.com/mrsa.html

I would caution against the over-use of antibacterial agents (anti-bac soap especially). Their over use (along w/ antibiotics) is the very mechanism by which MRSA has evolved.

Use stuff that fights bugs mechanically (soap) or bleach. Alcohol is another potential. I have heard more than one nurse swear that Jack Daniels is actually an 'approved' disinfectant in a crisis.

My belly needs disinfecting....

Your website is paid for by bleach companies and had advertising links in it... I can't buy lobbying at face value. And bleach will kill some strains of MRSA, but it has to be mixed properly. Just dumping Clorox down the drain won't do it. In our micro biology labs, staph is one of the few things that we don't risk just soaking the equipment it sterilizing solutions with, its off to the autoclave every single time.

And the improper use of antibiotic agents is how MRSA has evolved. Over-use does nothing if the diseases aren't spread if they are, it can be a bad combo. Random mutations and bacteria's way of reproducing are better mechanisms for their evolution more-so then environmental factors. All the factors can do is decide which bacteria have a better chance at reproducing.

Alcohols work as disinfectants because they don't allow the enzymes to function that allow for bacteria to feed. The downside to that is they damage you as much as they damage the bacteria because they denature protein. Anti-biotics are the same way, merely acting as inhibitors. The only reason they are so effective is our size compared to a bacteria's.

fdeck · #17 05-14-2010, 09:18 PM

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/dise...clinicians.asp

http://epa.gov/oppad001/list_h_mrsa_vre.pdf

chondro776 · #18 05-17-2010, 01:32 PM

My bad...I grabbed a quick link....didn't realize the one I left was a Clorox page.

At any rate, Clorox is clearly listed on a number of resources, including Fdeck's.

jp58 · #19 05-18-2010, 03:59 AM

Eh. After asking, I found out I posted out of ignorance. Bleach will kill it but only in the right concentration.

basste · #20 05-18-2010, 04:25 AM

i had a bad staph infection, and it's nothing to do with poor hygien or something: We all have staph over our skin, around our lips, ect. Staph became bad when your body has a faintness like overtiredness, low blood pressure, illness..
Then, a single little cut in your skin can be a door for staph, cause your body will be too low to fight and crush it, like he does 99,999 per cent of time. If you're fine, staph will not enter in your body.
Plus no contagious problem. your carry staph on your skin, no need other's staph to be infected.
That said, it's always a good thing to clean a home