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08-26-2011, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GTA, Ontario | | | Computer guys: What do you think about this build?
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I'd be doing a lot of RAM heavy work (Photoshop, video editing/rendering, 3d modeling/rendering, etc). I'm not a gamer, but I'll enjoy the occasional game once in a while.
I wanted to spend no more than $1000. Came just over with tax. 
Any thoughts? CPU Motherboard Vid card RAM Harddrive Power Cooling Case 
DVD drive, card reader, other hardware will be taken from my old computer (which will be used for rendering).
Thanks!
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08-26-2011, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | Pretty beastly!
You won't need to upgrade anything for a long time. However, I question the hard drive. With so many powerful components, your HD is sure to be the bottleneck in this system. If you think it is slow, it will be because of that. The "green" series doesn't read or write about 5400 RPM I believe, which is partly how it stay green.
It looks like you have money to spend - why not get an nice SSD for your operating system, and use the 2TB standard drive as data only? SSD is ultra stable and little chance of failing, like a standard drive.
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08-26-2011, 01:04 PM
| | | | I'd check out a few more sites to see if I can;t get it cheaper.
newegg.com has alot of combo deals. |
08-26-2011, 01:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GTA, Ontario | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tastybasslines  Pretty beastly!
You won't need to upgrade anything for a long time. However, I question the hard drive. With so many powerful components, your HD is sure to be the bottleneck in this system. If you think it is slow, it will be because of that. The "green" series doesn't read or write about 5400 RPM I believe, which is partly how it stay green.
It looks like you have money to spend - why not get an nice SSD for your operating system, and use the 2TB standard drive as data only? SSD is ultra stable and little chance of failing, like a standard drive. | Great point... I'm sure it's totally worth spending the extra money for something like that.
If I go through with it, though, do you think the 600w power supply will be enough?
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Originally Posted by Strohsx I'd check out a few more sites to see if I can;t get it cheaper.
newegg.com has alot of combo deals. | I cross-checked prices with Amazon and Tiger Direct. Unfortunately, NCIX doesn't allow cross checking with Newegg, and Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.
EDIT: Just noticed after all this time, there is a Newegg. ca... 
Nevertheless, NCIX ships for free with a store pickup, which is pretty solid, considering I'm right by the store. 
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08-26-2011, 01:28 PM
|  | ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıbǝɹ | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Northern Virginia | | | For modeling and rendering, you might want to take a look at the i7-2600k instead. Hyperthreading depends on programs you will be using.
Also, even if you are going to OC down the line, I'd look at upper end air coolers rather than closed-loop kits such as H##'s. Or something simple as Cooler Master 212+ will do the job at much less.
I would also look at another option for PSU. Look into Corsair TX/HX 650 at least or Antec Earthwatt series.
If you're sticking with mid tower, compare it to Cooler Master CM690 or HAF912/922. |
08-26-2011, 01:41 PM
|  | I'm just a cover of a real bassist | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: 6.7 m (22 ft) below sea level | | Where is the sound card?  Canyou do without? |
08-26-2011, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Keano For modeling and rendering, you might want to take a look at the i7-2600k instead. Hyperthreading depends on programs you will be using.
Also, even if you are going to OC down the line, I'd look at upper end air coolers rather than closed-loop kits such as H##'s. Or something simple as Cooler Master 212+ will do the job at much less.
I would also look at another option for PSU. Look into Corsair TX/HX 650 at least or Antec Earthwatt series.
If you're sticking with mid tower, compare it to Cooler Master CM690 or HAF912/922. | Thanks for the suggestions! I've replaced the corsair H-cooling with the Coolermaster 212 and my power supply with a corsair 650W psu. Brought my price down a little bit (before it goes up again from an SSD )
The i7 is a little out of my budget, unfortunately. I was thinking of waiting for the new line of i7's to come out (a friend who works at NCIX mentioned the new stocks coming in in the next month or so). Depending on how much the prices go down when that happens, hopefully, I'll be able to get an earlier one for under 300 bucks, even if it's locked. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay2U Where is the sound card? Canyou do without? | Sound card is integrated into the motherboard. I'm not going to be doing any audio mixing, and I don't care too much about music quality, so I don't really need one. I can always upgrade later on, I figure.
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08-26-2011, 04:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus, OH | | | I'd personally choose an EVGA video card over PNY, mainly due to the customer support and warranty. PNY may be cheaper, but you aren't getting a lifetime warranty or increased support for what you're paying.
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08-26-2011, 04:41 PM
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HD, you could always do those new'ish hybrids, that are both ssd and platter based.
Life would be so awesome if frys carried laklands!!! HA!
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08-26-2011, 04:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New-brunswick | | | Check on directcanada I usually save (always) there compared to ncix. I have a very similar build to yours, the main difference being I use a HD 6870 instead of the 560Ti. And you say you don't game but that is a VERY game worthy machine. Also I notice your only harddrive there is a caviar Green, I wouldn't want to have my OS on that personally, Check out the Caviar black or perhaps a ssd. |
08-26-2011, 04:52 PM
|  | Superfast 2.0 | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX | | | If you dropped a 7200 RPM or SSD instead of the green WD you'd have a monster on your hands. Depending on how heavy your rendering will be, you may want to consider an i7 Sandy. |
08-26-2011, 05:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GTA, Ontario | | Thanks for all the comments, guys. I REALLY appreciate it; you have no idea.
Also, Ziltoid, cheers on the directcanada website! Just one more for crosschecking prices. 
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08-26-2011, 05:20 PM
| | | | Buy everything from Newegg. |
08-26-2011, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SoonerMatt If you dropped a 7200 RPM or SSD instead of the green WD you'd have a monster on your hands. Depending on how heavy your rendering will be, you may want to consider an i7 Sandy. | Thinking of getting this one, instead of the HD/SSD combo? NCIX.com - Buy Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM - Western Digital WD - WD2002FAEX - in Canada Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupac Buy everything from Newegg. | Price matching from them. Shipping charges are deterring me from buying from them directly.
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08-26-2011, 06:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GTA, Ontario | | I think I will wait until the new i7's come out, but for now, here's an update with what I'm considering going with: CPU Motherboard Vid card RAM Harddrive Power Cooling Case 
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08-26-2011, 08:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Saint John, NB, Canada | | Have you checked the shops around College/Spadina? Some of those store are pretty competitive with online stores, or were a few years ago, at least. 
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08-26-2011, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ayce Have you checked the shops around College/Spadina? Some of those store are pretty competitive with online stores, or were a few years ago, at least. | Actually, no. I'll definitely check them out next time I'm in TO. 
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08-28-2011, 01:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver, CO | | | Personally, I haven't noticed much (if any) performance difference between 7200rpm drives and 5400rpm drives...but that's just me. I think the only instance where you would notice a real difference in performance is if you had little RAM and relied heavily on Virtual Memory. With 8GB+ of physical memory, you can most likely disable Virtual Memory (for sure in a Linux setup, maybe even in WinBlows), or at least keep it to a minimum.
Since you're going to be doing heavy video editing/3D rendering, I'd highly consider running a second video card in SLI mode, and maybe bumping your RAM to Triple-channel if the Mobo is capable. Also, you'll probably get best performance if your RAM and CPU Bus clock speeds are matched (e.g., don't get RAM rated at 1066MHz if your processor bus only runs at 800MHz).
Lastly, just to give yourself some breathing room, I'd probably go with an 850W+ Power Supply. Oh, and make sure you have plenty of case fans...lol.
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08-28-2011, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Raven2k360 Personally, I haven't noticed much (if any) performance difference between 7200rpm drives and 5400rpm drives...but that's just me. I think the only instance where you would notice a real difference in performance is if you had little RAM and relied heavily on Virtual Memory. With 8GB+ of physical memory, you can most likely disable Virtual Memory (for sure in a Linux setup, maybe even in WinBlows), or at least keep it to a minimum.
Since you're going to be doing heavy video editing/3D rendering, I'd highly consider running a second video card in SLI mode, and maybe bumping your RAM to Triple-channel if the Mobo is capable. Also, you'll probably get best performance if your RAM and CPU Bus clock speeds are matched (e.g., don't get RAM rated at 1066MHz if your processor bus only runs at 800MHz).
Lastly, just to give yourself some breathing room, I'd probably go with an 850W+ Power Supply. Oh, and make sure you have plenty of case fans...lol. | He'd need a totally different motherboard(chipset)/cpu to run triple channel ram, something like X58, also for what he will do he has no need to take the multi-gpu plunge. There is a noticeable difference between 5.4k, 7.2k, 10k, 15k and ssd's unless we're talking storage space in which case it would not matter much, but for your OS and whatnot it does matter. The only point were I agree with you would be the power-supply to be upgrade proof so you can just move it to your newest build rather then buying a new one when that time comes. |
08-28-2011, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver, CO | | | That's why I said 'if the Mobo is capable' on the trip-ch RAM. As far as the OS running quicker with a faster-RPM drive, I'd like to see actual test comparisons. I've actually gone from a 5.4k rpm drive to a 7.2k and back to a 5.4k in my laptop with no noticeable performance differences.
When the computer gets booted up, most of the OS gets loaded into RAM, and the drive is rarely accessed, except when new programs are executed or caching is done. If there is a noticeable performance difference anywhere, I think it'd be (as I stated before) in virtual memory; if you have a system with little physical memory and rely heavily on VM, then you MIGHT notice a slightly slower machine if you have a lower-rpm drive.
But even looking at specs between the two drive speeds, the R/W and access times are usually 1mS or less difference....hardly an earth-shattering difference in the speed of the OS's response or overall speed of the computer.
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