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12-23-2010, 06:33 AM
| | | | From the story: the dog jumped off a porch and started barking and running toward the officer, Capt. Tina Daniel said. The officer ordered the dog to stop and when it didn't, the officer shot and killed the animal in its yard, Daniel said.....(the dog) was not on a leash.
Your "headline" is a bit misleading. | 
12-23-2010, 06:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hebron, KY | | The dog barked at the cop and he killed it?  Seems a tad bit excessive to me.
I'd like to have 5 minutes alone with that SOB.
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12-23-2010, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NS2A From the story: the dog jumped off a porch and started barking and running toward the officer, Capt. Tina Daniel said. The officer ordered the dog to stop and when it didn't, the officer shot and killed the animal in its yard, Daniel said.....(the dog) was not on a leash.
Your "headline" is a bit misleading. | Ordered the dog to stop? Do dogs now speak English? Seems we need a better way of handling these situations than just shooting the dog. And ordering it to stop is illogical. | 
12-23-2010, 06:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland | | | None of us were there and do not know the mannerism the dog was expressing.
Barking and running towards the cop could be vicious or harmless, we don't know, we weren't there.
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12-23-2010, 06:56 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | | In many cases where cops have killed people under very questionable circumstances, many have always given the police the benefit of doubt. That is the least that can be done in the case of shooting a dog.
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12-23-2010, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Winnb Ordered the dog to stop? Do dogs now speak English? Seems we need a better way of handling these situations than just shooting the dog. And ordering it to stop is illogical. | Really? So you voice commands to an animal are pointless? Saying "sit", "stay" etc are useless? A dog can't possibly understand a voice command? Your emotional response is illogical. People more concerned about an animal than another humans safety are illogical. | 
12-23-2010, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DRafalske The dog barked at the cop and he killed it?  Seems a tad bit excessive to me.
I'd like to have 5 minutes alone with that SOB. | ^^ This.....
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12-23-2010, 07:38 AM
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12-23-2010, 07:40 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio | | | I read this a few days ago and was shocked someone didn't post it here before now. The anti cop coalition here is slipping.
Anyway, my take....who knows? I wasn't there. Of course, no one else commenting here was either. Don't let a lack of information get in the way of a good cop rant though. | 
12-23-2010, 07:45 AM
|  | That's the way uh huh uh huh I like it.. | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Robbinsville, NJ | | | So let's see.....dog barking..no leash....it's approaching officer at speed....no visible fence between dog and officer...
I'd call this one a very unfortunate situation for all concerned and not a "cop murders dog" story. It's sad that the dog had to die, it really is. I love dogs but this wasn't "murder"
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12-23-2010, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NS2A Your emotional response is illogical. People more concerned about an animal than another humans safety are illogical. | You'd have a real hard time proving that in "Logic 101".
What would have been the right thing to do here might be an ethical, practical or emotional question, but as reported in this thread it's nothing to do with "logic" at all. I'm not commenting on the case in question here; just pointing out that folks who think they've somehow made a valid point by calling someone else "illogical" aren't really making any sort of argument and seem to be using a word that they don't properly understand.
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12-23-2010, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Relic So let's see.....dog barking..no leash....it's approaching officer at speed....no visible fence between dog and officer...
I'd call this one a very unfortunate situation for all concerned and not a "cop murders dog" story. It's sad that the dog had to die, it really is. I love dogs but this wasn't "murder" | I read earlier there was an electric fence that would have contained the dog in the yard. However, unless the officer had some sort of bionic eye, or LaForge visor, he probably wouldn't have been able to see it. | 
12-23-2010, 07:49 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio | | | So...in the end....if I'm at work, and a dog is charging me, viciously barking, in what I read as a threatening manner, I'm putting one in it's ten ring. AND, I LIKE dogs. | 
12-23-2010, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezewiz I read earlier there was an electric fence that would have contained the dog in the yard. However, unless the officer had some sort of bionic eye, or LaForge visor, he probably wouldn't have been able to see it. | Right, and from what I had heard, there were no signs advertising the fact that there was an electric fence present, (I see them all over here) so.....
I'm not necessarily trying to place blame on the owners - I still think it was really no one's fault but one single "electric fence" sign may have made a difference but who knows...
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12-23-2010, 07:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Pennsylvania | | | Some dogs are trained to stay in their yard, or have an electric fence. I wonder where the officer was in relation to the dog, and if they could have waited to see if the dog would have stopped at the edge? | 
12-23-2010, 08:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Harrisburg PA | | | these are the types of threads that always lead to infractions | 
12-23-2010, 08:02 AM
|  | No need to ask, he's a smooth... Moderator | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Midlands UK | | As has already been said, there's just insufficient info available here to say whether or not the officer was acting reasonably on this occasion. I'm sure that needn't hinder the thread's development though by people untroubled by that sort of lack - it usually doesn't. 
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12-23-2010, 08:04 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA | | | What a ridiculous thread title. I'm all for calling out officers of the law when there's a blatant abuse of power, but this? Who can even tell what happened? How can anyone say if what the dog was doing was menacing? Sure, it's a terrible thing that a beloved family dog is dead, but when you allow a dog to roam free outside, there is a certain amount of risk assumed, and this is one of those risks. Police officers are entrusted to make certain judgment calls about their safety, and this is one of those situations. Was he/she out of line? I certainly don't know, but it's a lesson to anyone who chooses to let their dog roam.
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12-23-2010, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezewiz So...in the end....if I'm at work, and a dog is charging me, viciously barking, in what I read as a threatening manner, I'm putting one in it's ten ring. AND, I LIKE dogs. | Only time I've used my firearm for protection to date was when I was charged by two Rotwiller type mixed breeds that had killed a doe and were feeding on it near a stream I was fishing. They were feral and viscous. I would have shot them again (I killed one and the other ran) without hesitation. If you've ever been the victim of a dog attack you would understand, they happen fast, and you don't have time to ponder a bunch of what ifs. Dog owners have a responsibility to control their pets.
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