Creeping incrementalism

syciprider · #1 03-03-2008, 09:19 AM

Airgun ban coming to Scotland.

Airgun ban takes a step forward

The airgun issue is being considered by the city council. A move which could see Aberdeen become the first city in Scotland to ban airguns has taken a step forward. Councillor for Seaton, Norman Collie, hopes to end what he calls the yob culture associated with the weapons.

Councillors agreed to refer the proposal to the local authority's policy and strategy committee.

If approved, the Scottish Executive would have to approve a by-law. One shooting association said the moved seemed "a bit excessive".

A number of people and animals have been injured in attacks in recent years, with damage caused to property.

'Appreciate concerns'

The Labour councillor argues airguns should be made illegal within Aberdeen's boundaries.

Councillor Collie said: "The number of incidents involving airguns is creeping up across Scotland and something needs to be done about these weapons."

James Scott, the British Association for Shooting and Conservation's (BASC) press and policy officer for Scotland, told the BBC Scotland news website: "We appreciate there are concerns in some areas.

"Our premise is we have got existing legislation all of which should prevent the misuse of airguns if the legislation is properly enforced and the public suitably educated."

More than eight in 10 people in Scotland would back a ban on airguns, according to a recent poll carried out on behalf of Glasgow MSP Tommy Sheridan.

He said that 82% of the 1,000 respondents said they supported his proposal to restrict use.

Aberdeen gun shop owner Neil Anderson previously said he agreed that using airguns illegally should result in harsh punishment, but that he did not feel they should be banned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/6403461.stm

Pilgrim · #2 03-03-2008, 09:38 AM

Isn't "creeping incrementalism" redundant?

If incrementalism didn't creep, would it still be incrementalism?

If it it moved faster than creeping, then wouldn't it stop being incrementalism?

Inquiring minds.......

Mark Latimour · #3 03-03-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Isn't "creeping incrementalism" redundant?

If incrementalism didn't creep, would it still be incrementalism?

If it it moved faster than creeping, then wouldn't it stop being incrementalism?

Inquiring minds.......

Good point.

I am not sure where this thread is going, but that is a legitimate inquiry which should be addressed!

Nikoubis · #4 03-03-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

Good point.

I am not sure where this thread is going, but that is a legitimate inquiry which should be addressed!

Good idea, let's derail the thread. Syciprider is on to european governments and we can't let him reveal their cunning plans!

bassteban · #5 03-03-2008, 10:10 AM

Are airguns for shooting airheads or air-gitards?

Baryonyx · #6 03-03-2008, 10:12 AM

Airguns suck. If anyone generally cares about them being banned they should get a better hobby.

syciprider · #7 03-03-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

Good point.

I am not sure where this thread is going, but that is a legitimate inquiry which should be addressed!

Ah yes, let the continentals worry about the nuances of the language. It will keep them occupied while we work towards removing their right to have rolled up newspapers

bassteban · #8 03-03-2008, 10:16 AM

And what about rampant, unwavering & uncontrolled incrementalism?!?

syciprider · #9 03-03-2008, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris2112

Airguns suck. If anyone generally cares about them being banned they should get a better hobby.

Apparently they are important enough to be a problem in Aberdeen.

Tegzsa · #10 03-03-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syciprider

Apparently they are important enough to be a problem in Aberdeen.

If that's all the gun use they have to worry about, it must be a truly great place.

Diggler · #11 03-03-2008, 10:29 AM

They do put shallow dents in drywall that you don't notice until well after the airsoft battle between you and your son (while Mom isn't home).

Vandelay · #12 03-03-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syciprider

Airgun ban coming to Scotland.

No, the article says that a ban is being considered, not that it's "coming". Ideas get considered, changed, and/or dropped all the time. It's called the democratic process. If you live in Aberdeen, feel free to participate.

FL Knifemaker · #13 03-03-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diggler

They do put shallow dents in drywall that you don't notice until well after the airsoft battle between you and your son (while Mom isn't home).

They also jam up the wifes vacuum cleaner causing her to to forbid indoor Airsoft battles

Maybe it's just angry Moms in Scotland that are behind this??

Wait until paintball catches on over there

syciprider · #14 03-03-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tegzsa

If that's all the gun use they have to worry about, it must be a truly great place.

Oh it must be. They are very safe. In some parts of the island they have cameras that monitor you to ensure your well being.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandelay

No, the article says that a ban is being considered, not that it's "coming". Ideas get considered, changed, and/or dropped all the time. It's called the democratic process. If you live in Aberdeen, feel free to participate.

There are several kinds of democracy. Please tell me the one that you are talking about.