Cyclists on dope...

[EricF]

For those who know the sport, this is no surprise at all.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mich...ears-of-doping

[i_got_a_mohawk]

The Netherlands?

[EricF]

Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

The Netherlands?

The rider.

Like I said, you kind of need to know the sport and the players. Finding out that Michael Rasmussen used preformance enhancing drugs for his whole career is not much of a surprise. The fact that he never tested positive is ANOTHER clear indicator that the testing procedures were far less sophisticated than the doping technology.

[slobake]

Dope pedalers?

[spade2you]

Operacion Pueto trials are now JUST starting.

I think Fuentes wanted to tell a judge about all of the Spanish athletes he was treating and wasn't allowed to do so.

A-Rod used PEDs.

Good thing we have Lance to focus on.

[Lonesomedave]

Originally Posted by slobake

Dope pedalers?

.......

don't know why, but when i saw this i just thought of The Tubes:

WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE

http://youtu.be/kP8nGNbk7oQ

[DerHoggz]

Shouldn't this go in the MTB thread?

So does the Chicken retract the "I was cheating on my wife!" story?

[Jazz Ad]

Cyclists have been on dope for over a century. They all are. If they're not they don't win.
How this would come as a surprise for anyone is beyond me.

[elgecko]

Originally Posted by Lonesomedave

.......

don't know why, but when i saw this i just thought of The Tubes:

WHITE PUNKS ON DOPE

http://youtu.be/kP8nGNbk7oQ

You beat me to it!

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by EricF

The rider.

Like I said, you kind of need to know the sport and the players. Finding out that Michael Rasmussen used preformance enhancing drugs for his whole career is not much of a surprise. The fact that he never tested positive is ANOTHER clear indicator that the testing procedures were far less sophisticated than the doping technology.

Was more a joke about being on dope and cycling :-P

[SoonerMatt]

Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

Cyclists have been on dope for over a century. They all are. If they're not they don't win.
How this would come as a surprise for anyone is beyond me.

/thread

[Simo98]

Personally I'm hoping that the exposure of this whole doping thing will help to bring about a paradigm shift in the way people see drugs, that they're not just necessarily for treating sick people, or for recreational purposes, but can actually be used as a tool to aid people in accomplishing things when used correctly.

[spade2you]

Originally Posted by Simo98

Personally I'm hoping that the exposure of this whole doping thing will help to bring about a paradigm shift in the way people see drugs, that they're not just necessarily for treating sick people, or for recreational purposes, but can actually be used as a tool to aid people in accomplishing things when used correctly.

They're still not healthy or without risk. If they were perfectly safe for athletes to use, they'd be legal.

[Simo98]

Originally Posted by spade2you

They're still not healthy or without risk. If they were perfectly safe for athletes to use, they'd be legal.

Neither is all the special dieting and stuff they do, nor is participating in sports generally on a long term scale. And think of the improvements that could be made through research and development funded by the multi-billion dollar industry that is commercial sport, it's because the demand is kept underground that large scale research and improvement can't take place.

Many professional athletes are left with numerous life effecting injuries simply from the wear and tear on their bodies as a result of what they do with their life, I don't see how taking drugs is any different? Sport is risky business, and takes it's toll, athletes take a lot of risks and make a lot of sacrifices to get where they are regardless.

As has been shown, many athletes are taking performance enhancers already (within cycling at least, although I know that many amature rugby players on steroids it's not funny), I think they'd just be able to make them safer and better if we had a slightly different outlook on them.

There are classes of drugs being researched, largely under pseudo-legal circumstances that could do a lot of good, not just for helping people who are sick or disadvantaged, but that can be used as tools to allow people to perform better or more effectively. From physical performance enhancers, to drugs that enhance memory and cognitive ability, enhancing your ability to process and store information, or think laterally.

It's a somewhat controversial view, but I believe it's one that's often overlooked. You can give Ritalin/Adderall etc. to a child against their will to help them concentrate at school, and many people would consider that a good thing, yet a medical student isn't allowed to purchase the exact same drug, by choice, to help them concentrate for exactly the same purpose? Seems a little silly if you ask me.

[Jazz Ad]

That's for sure, it isn't healthy to ride a bike for 150 miles daily during a month.

[EricF]

Another major player from the Armstrong-era comes clean...Michael Boogerd

[elgecko]

How about an "Open Class" for pro cycling? Doping with impunity! The climbing would be awesome!

[EricF]

Originally Posted by elgecko

How about an "Open Class" for pro cycling? Doping with impunity! The climbing would be awesome!

A "fully-modified" division! Hyper-light machines with every available aerodynamic advantage are legal, too.

Rule 1 - You must cross the finish line alive. Prize money will be sent to next-of-kin.

[elgecko]

^ I'd totally watch that!

[4dog]

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