Dark Knight poll..for those that have seen it

JacoLesFlea · #1 08-05-2008, 04:24 AM

Loved the movie, but a couple things bugged me so here is a poll

Toasted · #2 08-05-2008, 04:34 AM

Batman's voice was pretty stupid, but the film was great. Also, we didn't see either 2Face or Maggie dead.

i_got_a_mohawk · #3 08-05-2008, 04:44 AM

Batmans voice did my nut in.

It did bug me that 2-Face was so short lived, I wish they had worked in that Maggie liked cats or something, so that they could have brought her in the next film as catwoman (the romance between her and bruce was there . . .).

Brad Barker · #4 08-05-2008, 05:02 AM

although a writer can certainly ret-con it, killing off maggie gyllenhaal('s character) really irritated me, in no small part because of my appreciation for her... talents...

tangent: a while back, i was visiting a friend in orlando who i hadn't seen in a while, and one of the first things she brought up was maggie's pregnancy: "oh, i think you'd be interested--i read that m.g. is pregnant." my facial expression upon hearing this and the immediate realization that the baby could not possibly be mine confirmed my friend's suspicion that i would be *slightly* interested in that bit of news.

Disco_Gee · #5 08-05-2008, 06:50 AM

I didn't care much about Maggie Gyllenhaal's character being killed off. I don't really like her as an actress all that much so I was cool with it. Batman's voice was pretty lame though. The moment I heard it I cringed a little, and had to try really hard to ignore it for the rest of the film!

Dash Rantic · #6 08-05-2008, 07:18 AM

I have to admit, I don't understand why people disliked Batman's voice so much. Sure it sounded a bit odd, but it made sense (to me) why he would be screwing his voice up like that.

I picked Two-Face dying off. He died off waaay too fast, didn't feel to me like his evil side was really developed enough, seemed to go by way too fast. I haven't ever read the comics, the only thing I know about Batman is from the movies, so maybe Two-face would have made more sense if I knew the comics.

-Dash

i_got_a_mohawk · #7 08-05-2008, 07:22 AM

Tommy Lee Jones was a better two-face IMO, tho I did like how there was more of a back story and more of making Harvey a good guy first etc etc.

Barkless Dog · #8 08-05-2008, 07:23 AM

I did not like the Maggie character at all. She was not "hot" enough to me, just like Gyneth in Iron Man. Just Ehh...

Yes, its shallow, I admit it.

I was actually glad they did away with her. I think Bruce could do better. She was kind of whiney anyway.

The Owl · #9 08-05-2008, 07:26 AM

What was up with that voice? Sounded like Clint Eastwood meets an angry grizzly bear.

Barkless Dog · #10 08-05-2008, 07:26 AM

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I have to admit, I don't understand why people disliked Batman's voice so much. Sure it sounded a bit odd, but it made sense (to me) why he would be screwing his voice up like that.

They needed to explain it up front rather than just throwing it at you. It was just distracting because you had to think about why are they doing this?

Yes, I'm sure it was for both voice recognition detection and to make him more menacing, but no-one I have talked to liked it. It was also hokey the whole cape gliding part, it just could not physically work they way they did it. At least with IronMan they showed you how everything worked and why. It made it believable. Batman they just threw a bunch of things at you without explaining it. That's bad.

RED5 · #11 08-05-2008, 07:35 AM

[quote=The Owl;6087292]What was up with that voice? Sounded like Clint Eastwood meets an angry grizzly bear.[/QUOTE

Someone else said it, I'm just repeating it....Batman does Nathan Explosion really well.

**john turner** · #12 08-05-2008, 07:46 AM

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What was up with that voice? Sounded like Clint Eastwood meets an angry grizzly bear.

Someone else said it, I'm just repeating it....Batman does Nathan Explosion really well.

woot. awesome explanation.

i didn't have that much problem with the voice, but it was a little silly.

we don't know for sure that rachel or 2face is dead, yet. might be protecting her, and we didn't see anything definitive about harvey. in fact, if harvey was dead why would they care about pinning the crimes on batman? so what that harvey snapped at the end - he was dead.

**john turner** · #13 08-05-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkless Dog

They needed to explain it up front rather than just throwing it at you. It was just distracting because you had to think about why are they doing this?

Yes, I'm sure it was for both voice recognition detection and to make him more menacing, but no-one I have talked to liked it. It was also hokey the whole cape gliding part, it just could not physically work they way they did it. At least with IronMan they showed you how everything worked and why. It made it believable. Batman they just threw a bunch of things at you without explaining it. That's bad.

they explained the cape glider in the first movie - a current applied to the fabric made it rigid.

the voice was also all but explained in the first move when bruce is describing what he must become to clean up the city.

i think they, though, that they should have gone a full face-mask route, with a voice synthesizer - sort of a cross between the more recent batgirl and darth vader, but i guess the dc folks wouldn't like that. after all, if they ever do knightfall, that's gonna be jean-paul's route, no doubt.

Sonic_Death · #14 08-05-2008, 08:05 AM

I think the voice part was more about disguising his identity more than anything else. Many people knew Bruce Wayne and his voice, so he had to disguise it when he was Batman so no one would catch on. I think that is the most plausible and sensible explanation behind it.

Also, as already stated, there is no proof that either of them are dead. I think it is more likely that Maggie is dead than Two Face. Two Face fell from the same height Batman did so why should he be dead? We'll have to see in the future.

Barkless Dog · #15 08-05-2008, 08:14 AM

That's the part I hate about comics, nobody ever dies, they come back as a different sex, different race, with a new costume and a foil cover, or he was a clone the whole time!

bassman1185 · #16 08-05-2008, 08:17 AM

Batman's voice didn't really bother me. He sounded tough, but I'll give you that he was trying too hard. Maggie Gyllenhall's character didn't really matter that much, so I wasn't too torn up about her getting blown up, plus her death was the catalyst for Harvey Dent to turn bad. Two Face didn't die.

So none of those points really bugged me at all.

cheesemonkey · #17 08-05-2008, 08:21 AM

well i don't think that two-face is dead... so i went with killin off the mg character though

Thunderscreech · #18 08-05-2008, 08:21 AM

Are we sure harvey dent is dead? There was no coffin at the end, just a big picture. And I think Commissioner Gordon knows more than he's being let on as knowing...

But Two-faces supposed death annoyed me.

Alan Vorse · #19 08-05-2008, 08:54 AM

What bugged me the most is that they tried to cram too many ideas into one movie and that it didn't live up to the hype.

i_got_a_mohawk · #20 08-05-2008, 09:16 AM

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if harvey was dead why would they care about pinning the crimes on batman? so what that harvey snapped at the end - he was dead.

It was so Gotham had a ray of hope, as this great man would have stayed as a solid force of good, maintaining his integrity.