death match: zombies vs vampires

sonic assassin · #1 03-06-2011, 01:13 AM

who wins?

explain.

UncleFluffy · #2 03-06-2011, 01:59 AM

zombies: they have no blood so vampires starve to death

TOOL460002 · #3 03-06-2011, 02:01 AM

im glad we have someone with some zombie anatomy under this belt; lends credibility.

sonic assassin · #4 03-06-2011, 02:05 AM

ive already had this argument on facebook, looking for new answers and perspectives. so far the outcome has been based on a lot of variables.

ill interject my ideas once this gets going.

drteeth · #5 03-06-2011, 02:13 AM

Zombies would own vampires.You see, the survival of vampires depends on the fresh blood of humans.But due to a zombie outbreak, this population is inevitable declining (and the growth rate of a zombie population inevitable increases). Therefore, once the population of zombies reaches a critical level there is not enough blood left for vampires to survive and they will die.

sonic assassin · #6 03-06-2011, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by drteeth

Zombies would own vampires.You see, the survival of vampires depends on the fresh blood of humans.But due to a zombie outbreak, this population is inevitable declining (and the growth rate of a zombie population inevitable increases). Therefore, once the population of zombies reaches a critical level there is not enough blood left for vampires to survive and they will die.

that was a crucial part of my original argument.

someone argued that they would then go to animal blood. i countered with the idea that zombies will likely eat animals too. this had mixed results, as someone stated a dog walked through a herd of zombies in dawn of the dead, and a horse was killed and eaten in the walking dead.

the only reasonable counter i have for that statement is that due to the vampires super speed and strength, they could attempt to kill all the zombies and contain the outbreak, likely better than a mortal could. this is, of course, a huge "if" situation.

i considered the idea that vampires are smart enough to keep a food supply hidden somehow, but you know zombies... they always find a way.

ShredderMaximus · #7 03-06-2011, 03:02 AM

assuming zombie blood is ok for vampires, they could get some sort of industrial mass juicing equipment and drink zombie smoothies.

And would a zombie even be attracted to a vampire? From what I understand, zombies only go after living things, and vampires are undead.
A vampire would be no different than a tree in a zombies perspective.

Provided they were able to find something to chow on, vampires would easily dominate over zombies.

sonic assassin · #8 03-06-2011, 03:24 AM

this raises the question, are vampires susceptible to viruses?

the way i see it, zombie bites a vampire, the vampire should become a zombie. a vampire bites a zombie, he STILL becomes a zombie.

however, this was argued in a few points. vampires apparently dont have a heartbeat or blood stream for a virus to get through. not that zombie viruses really make sense anyway, so it might not matter.

not entirely sure that vampires would be attracted to rotten blood anyway.

this is, of course, assuming they are affected by viruses and that zombies would go after them, which they may not.

in any case, the zombies would quickly deplete the food supply unless the vampires worked very quickly to stop them.

ShredderMaximus · #9 03-06-2011, 03:33 AM

I dunno, I've never heard of a vampire getting a.i.d.s...
Though that would be an interesting story

Jimbob Jones · #10 03-06-2011, 03:34 AM

If we had zombies and vampires break out, humans would be extinct within two months, then the zombies would slowly but surely start overtaking the vampires as well, but this would create a new race of hybrid vampire-zombies. These creatures would have the ravenous brain-apetite of zombies, but the fully human intelegence of vampires. These vampire-zombies would regroup, get organised, and clean up the rest of the zombies, essentially turning them into livestock that sustains the vampire-zombies.

Unfortunately, the zombie-vampire population would be split politically; half wanting to kill the vampires for their fresh brains, half wanting to save the remaining vampires and rebuild something resembling a society. Civil war would break out, and the entire world would become a rotting bloodbath.

Eventually, once all the zombies, vampires and vampire-zombies have been killed or their forces severely weakened. Then, and only then, a small force of 200-300 human troops would emerge from their underground bunker that they've been hiding out in since the beginning of the crisis. Once they have finished off the last of the vampires/zombies etc, society can be truly rebuilt.

Radical Edward · #11 03-06-2011, 04:10 AM

Vampires are pretty much zombies with brains of their own and supernatural powers. Zombies are pretty much the "ghouls" vampires create and control. Imo vampires win hands down.

drteeth · #12 03-06-2011, 04:31 AM

Even if the vampires are immune to the zombie virus AND zombies do not eat vampires, vampires will starve to death, assuming that they can only survive on human blood. This also assumes a rapidly expansion of the zombie virus (reference: every zombie movie in history) and a small population of vampires (this depends on your choice of vampire lore).

sonic assassin · #13 03-06-2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by drteeth

Even if the vampires are immune to the zombie virus AND zombies do not eat vampires, vampires will starve to death, assuming that they can only survive on human blood. This also assumes a rapidly expansion of the zombie virus (reference: every zombie movie in history) and a small population of vampires (this depends on your choice of vampire lore).

im going along with the idea that victims of zombies and vampires BOTH become their respective killer postmortem.

say you start with one of each. vampires feed to live. zombies just eat everything. zombies will expand much faster.

either way, food runs out in a hurry.

one thing i hadnt considered until just now is the idea of confining the virus to a continent. i dont imagine zombies swim or operate machinery well enough to get to another continent. as outrageous as it would be, the second an outbreak is documented, you strand everyone there and let no one else in. vampires can fly to safety. too bad people would never go with this because it would considered inhumane.

machine gewehr · #14 03-06-2011, 07:09 AM

Depends on the vampire.

If the vampire in question is this:

Zombies do not have a chance.

If the vampire is this:

What's he gonna do,sparke the zombies until "eternal" death?

DwaynieAD · #15 03-06-2011, 07:34 AM

the orcs would win

pie_man_25 · #16 03-06-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic assassin

one thing i hadnt considered until just now is the idea of confining the virus to a continent. i dont imagine zombies swim or operate machinery well enough to get to another continent. as outrageous as it would be, the second an outbreak is documented, you strand everyone there and let no one else in. vampires can fly to safety. too bad people would never go with this because it would considered inhumane.

while zombies may not be able to swim, they could perhaps walk along the bottom of some ocean until hitting some continent. Also: return of the living dead, those zombies were not the "slow, stupid, prettymuch useless" zombies, they were the "yeah, we run and are strong as heck and outsmart you" zombies, we can't necessarily underestimate them given the fact that there have been very few specifications given to both the vampires and zombies - are the vampires the badass vampires or the **** you'd see on twilight or vampire diaries, are the zombies slow/fast, magical/viral/radiation-based, running/shuffling etc...

ps: zombies that fly and shoot fire - then everybody's fudged.

**pacojas** · #17 03-06-2011, 09:24 AM

stalemate?!!

UNLESS,... you bring in the hybrid zombies of "I Am Legend"!

they were fast, strong, smart, and could climb walls.... BUT,...
they couldn't come into the light of day. sort of a Zombie Vampyre.

**colcifer** · #18 03-06-2011, 10:02 AM

Vampires totally win. Zombies would have a lot of trouble infiltrating a castle and when they eventually do get in, the vampire can just go somewhere else. While zombies do have a slightly superior sense of smell to humans, that's their only way to track so the vampire would be ok. It's likely that the zombies wouldn't be aware of the vampire as a potential food source (that's all they care about) at all since he or she is already dead (which begs the question, why are they having a death match?) but I digress.

Unrepresented · #19 03-06-2011, 10:16 AM

It's all about numbers, which is where zombies will eternally triumph. They're nothing particularly impressive in one on one matches, but they're persistent, unified, and excellent at recruitment.

If nothing else, look at the endings of the films of the genre. How many of them involve the inevitable zombie overrun of a stronghold? How many of them involve the vampire surviving and flourishing?

RonGillman3 · #20 03-06-2011, 11:05 AM

IMO, its going to be a stalemate. both Zombies and Vampires are undead, so Zombies wouldn't be attracted to Vampires and due to no blood, or a sludge like blood, the Vampires wouldn't go after the Zombies. The Human race would be obliterated then the Animal species. After that, with no blood source, Vampires would go first and then due to decomposition Zombies would follow a few weeks later. However, the vampires being smart they might stock blood, so they'll live longer, and maybe even breed humans to keep a steady stream of blood coming in. The Zombies wouldn't think of such a thing...