Documentaries That Should be Made

[The Owl]

Potential fun thread here, post your ideas. I'll lead off with:

1) It's Only A Band, GET A LIFE! An examination not of Rush, but rather their insanely over-obsessed fans that still live in their parent's basement trying to unlock secret codes contained on the "2112" album.

2) Uncurious George Follows every step of planning and building the George Dubbaya Bush Prezidenchul Liberry

3) Sequins and Cutthroats An examination of what REALLY goes on behind the scenes and the drama between the competitors in the world of ballroom dancing, the thrills, the spills, the dirty tricks, the conspiracies etc. The guys who did "Spinal Tap" and "A Mighty Wind" should try this one

Your turn----------------

[Valerus]

How about documentaries that should be UNmade?

E.g. An Inconvenient Truth

[casualmadness]

Originally Posted by Valerus

How about documentaries that should be UNmade?

E.g. An Inconvenient Truth

SuperSize me

[burk48237]

How about :

The Scare of the Decade Fad: Where we can examine how every decade there is a new "Scare du jour" designed to create fear in the public, create more power for bureaucrats, and create a demand to "do something" and tax someone even if nothing gets accomplished, or sometimes millions of lives are lost as collateral. For instance DDT, Global cooling, Cell Phone Waves, Electromagnetic fields, the Population bomb, and the latest cool chance to do something Global warming

Or: Big Business, Big Universities? The fact that the cost of higher education is going up at a rate two to three times the rate of inflation every year while many Universities sit on BILLIONS of dollars of endowments. While they receive millions in state aid and even more in pell grants, and taxpayer guaranteed student loans.

Or: CEO's and LAWYERS How many Lawyers earn incomes that only a CEO could dream of while employing far less people, paying their own employees far less, and not producing any product. And if CEO pay is an issue, why isn't Lawyers compensation an issue?

[jomahu]

Originally Posted by burk48237

How about :

The Scare of the Decade Fad: Where we can examine how every decade there is a new "Scare du jour" designed to create fear in the public, create more power for bureaucrats, and create a demand to "do something" and tax someone even if nothing gets accomplished, or sometimes millions of lives are lost as collateral. For instance DDT, Global cooling, Cell Phone Waves, Electromagnetic fields, the Population bomb, and the latest cool chance to do something Global warming

only if you include the wars on terror and drugs. and WMDs.
and immigrants stealing jobs. and homos who want to get married and destroy civilization.


i'd love to see a documentary on the history of 'rock en espanol.' or caribbean music and musicians.

[burk48237]

JOMAHU only if you include the wars on terror and drugs. and WMDs.
and immigrants stealing jobs. and homos who want to get married and destroy civilization

THOSE documentaries have already been made, what was Fahrenheit 911? Have you ever watched Sundance Channel, Hollywood loves those topics, and their is no problem getting funding or public TV time for those documentaries.

[Diggler]

Danger of Degree: Global Cooling... no wait, Warming... ah, screw it, CLIMATE CHANGE!

[Mark Latimour]

Originally Posted by burk48237

Or: CEO's and LAWYERS How many Lawyers earn incomes that only a CEO could dream of while employing far less people, paying their own employees far less, and not producing any product. And if CEO pay is an issue, why isn't Lawyers compensation an issue?

Some people are paid to do, some people are paid to think. Just because the product is something you don't understand, doesn't mean its not a product and that things like brand and marketing are not important to the product. The legal product is a combination of the legal output (ie advice and opinion) and the legal service (representation and advocacy). To say that lawyers don't produce a product is just showing complete ignorance of the legal profession.

[Diggler]

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

Some people are paid to do, some people are paid to think. Just because the product is something you don't understand, doesn't mean its not a product and that things like brand and marketing are not important to the product. The legal product is a combination of the legal output (ie advice and opinion) and the legal service (representation and advocacy). To say that lawyers don't produce a product is just showing complete ignorance of the legal profession.

Yes, where would the fertilizer industry be without a never ending supply of BS?

[Mark Latimour]

Originally Posted by Diggler

Yes, where would the fertilizer industry be without a never ending supply of BS?

...and where would TB OT be without its usual shovelful of ignorance?

[alfredpunkjazz]

LOL!

[burk48237]

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

Some people are paid to do, some people are paid to think. Just because the product is something you don't understand, doesn't mean its not a product and that things like brand and marketing are not important to the product. The legal product is a combination of the legal output (ie advice and opinion) and the legal service (representation and advocacy). To say that lawyers don't produce a product is just showing complete ignorance of the legal profession.

Actually lawyers produce a service, but their "product" deducts from a countries GDP. If a companies cost go up (which they do) due to legal fees, the cost of the product goes up with no return (unlike other costs) on investment. Other cost, like labor, raw materials, and tools, all generate income across the economic spectrum. Legal fees are a no return cost, and actually are negative to investment and employment. But then you wouldn't know that, as being a lawyer is not like being in business.

Interestingly lawyers are also insulated from the effects of the legal system themselves. It is about impossible in the US to sue a lawyer or a judge. Now I do realize the UK is different, because of loser pays. In the US frivolous lawsuits are a growth industry, and scientific proof or rationality are not required in order to obtain a favorable verdict or settlement. But, back to the original topic, this is a subject Hollywood NEVER touches. You never see a movie about a business being destroyed by a frivolous lawsuit or people losing their jobs because of bogus court settlements with no scientific or medical evidence (silicon breast implants).

And like I said we hear about overpaid CEO's all of the time from the documentary film business but never about the fact that some of the wealthiest men in America are lawyers, who make far more then many of those CEO's while their "business" employs far fewer people, at lower wages, and contributes almost nothing to future economic growth (it's actually a huge drag on it).

[Mark Latimour]

Originally Posted by burk48237

Actually lawyers produce a service, but their "product" deducts from a countries GDP. If a companies cost go up (which they do) due to legal fees, the cost of the product goes up with no return (unlike other costs) on investment. Other cost, like labor, raw materials, and tools, all generate income across the economic spectrum. Legal fees are a no return cost, and actually are negative to investment and employment. But then you wouldn't know that, as being a lawyer is not like being in business.

Interestingly lawyers are also insulated from the effects of the legal system themselves. It is about impossible in the US to sue a lawyer or a judge. Now I do realize the UK is different, because of loser pays. In the US frivolous lawsuits are a growth industry, and scientific proof or rationality are not required in order to obtain a favorable verdict or settlement. But, back to the original topic, this is a subject Hollywood NEVER touches. You never see a movie about a business being destroyed by a frivolous lawsuit or people losing their jobs because of bogus court settlements with no scientific or medical evidence (silicon breast implants).

And like I said we hear about overpaid CEO's all of the time from the documentary film business but never about the fact that some of the wealthiest men in America are lawyers, who make far more then many of those CEO's while their "business" employs far fewer people, at lower wages, and contributes almost nothing to future economic growth (it's actually a huge drag on it).

Wow, Steve, you should really refrain from talking about things you clearly know absolutely nothing about. There is so much incorrect assertion and assumption in the text above that its not worth addressing, particuarly since its OT. Can I suggest you actually consider reality, which is that the vast majority of money in the legal industry has nothing to do with the "lawsuits" that you are even aware of, but is made in corporate transaction and advisory work. I read two legal newspapers a week and they are full of stories of lawyers being sued by clients and by other law firms, both in the UK and US. Your lack of understanding of the area is apparent from your comment, originally, which I was correcting that there is no "product". Your rant, quoted above, about what you think about that product is just a rant, and a painfully misguided one at that. People reading it should be aware of that.

For what its worth, I think your documentary idea would be a good one. However, I think that the truth would be far less interesting than you think it is. Having worked at the pointy end of the legal field for a while now, its pretty much just the same as any other job.

[Vandelay]

Originally Posted by The Owl

Potential fun thread here

Well, so much for that.

[Flabby1]

They should make a documentary on the patterns in which hair grows on my @$$

you'd be riveted

oh and make a documentary about the trees in which monkeys live in and
swing around in and feed their babies in and birds fly into and build beautifully
well constructed nests from straw and what not, and lay their eggs and raise
their babies and the trees the said birds throw their young from to teach them
to fly "fly little booger fly" oh he hit his head on a branch on the way down,
the blow rendered him unconscious and he fell all the way to the ground, but he's light weight so it doesn't hurt too much, oh did a bird crap on my head from that tree. riveting.

[Mark Latimour]

I would like to see a documentary about the making of the next Tool album. I am intrigued by how those guys live their lives and work together. I bet they are really boring.

[The Owl]

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

I would like to see a documentary about the making of the next Tool album. I am intrigued by how those guys live their lives and work together. I bet they are really boring.

Perfect title:

TOOL: The Cure For Insomnia

[wilser]

Originally Posted by The Owl

...
1) It's Only A Band, GET A LIFE! An examination not of Rush, but rather their insanely over-obsessed fans that still live in their parent's basement trying to unlock secret codes contained on the "2112" album.
...

though I don't live with my folks anymore, I very much resent that comment! You, my friend, are NOT-COOL.

[c_joseph_lier]

how about a documentary on making documentaries? .... and then, then next week, the behind-the-scenes of Making the Documentary ... Next month on HBO, the Documentary of Behind-the scenes, A documentary in the making! .... and so on .. Ad Nausium!

[need4mospd]

Originally Posted by burk48237

Or: CEO's and LAWYERS How many Lawyers earn incomes that only a CEO could dream of while employing far less people, paying their own employees far less, and not producing any product. And if CEO pay is an issue, why isn't Lawyers compensation an issue?

How about a documentary on how people are way too obsessed with how much money other people make.