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Old 04-17-2009, 04:21 PM
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A discussion of some "weird chit" recently has prompted me to create an experiment today concerning a long-standing theory about how morphic fields affect informational fields, which in turn affects human senses. The idea is to improve one's sense of hearing by manipulating morphic fields. I'd like to share with my friends and fellow musicians - at least those open to new ideas.

I know this is a very mockworthy idea. Yes, I don't have to be told that it makes no sense (most people have never experimented in this domain). But nevertheless, it's an idea that has worked for me and for thousands of people who have done similar experiments with sound and human senses, over the last quarter century. More importantly, it takes less time to test than it does to mock. So who knows, it might work for you, and it doesn't cost a dime to try it.

All it requires is:

a commercial CD (with booklet and inside its jewel case).
a fine point black marker (or liquid gel pen, whatever produces fine dark black ink)


On a plain white piece of paper, write the following message with the fine black marker:

EVERYTHING IS SAFE INSIDE EVERYTHING IS SAFE INSIDE EVERYTHING IS SAFE INSIDE > O.K.


Cut out just the message, open the CD jewel box, place the message so at least part of it is directly on the "CompactDisc" logo printed on the CD. Then close the jewel box (CD case). (If the message is longer than the CD and wont fit in the case, fold it in half). That's all there is to it. This CD is now a "device". Here's how to test it:

TEST
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HOW TO TEST: Theoretically, the presence of the CD in its case is affecting your sound. For it to not affect your sound, you have to at least take it out of the room (because its affecting morphic fields present in its environment. Taking it out of the house totally negates the effect, but that's probably not necessary). So you test it by keeping it in the room, then taking it out when you want to hear if it makes a difference to your sound. (Simply taking the message off the CD should also make a difference to the sound, but not as much as it out of the room).

WHAT TO TEST: Play a CD (but not the CD that contains the message), on the best quality stereo you have. Repeat the same track, and either take the "CD device" that contains the message out of the room, or back into the room. Repeat the same track you were playing and see if the music sounds more natural, or smooth, or the resolution (quality in general) has improved. Yes, you can also test this using your bass guitar- that's the fun part.

Play a riff with the CD in front of you (or better still, on top of your speakers), and then with it out of the room. See if the tone of your guitar has changed in any way, after repeating the same riff. Repeat the test a few times, to better identify changes. (n.b. I think the changes are no doubt way too subtle to be heard under the stresses and noise of live conditions, and is best tested at home, when things are quiet. Also, this message isn't meant to be attached to a guitar, it will make things sound worse. If there is interest, I'll try to come up with something more suitable for a bass).
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:23 PM
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CK1, glad you're back, man. In the context of my ha ha funny "$39 Fuse" troll thread, this discussion was kind of interesting, and mildly amusing, but here as a separate post in the bass guitar amplifier section of TalkBass, its off-topic and at worst, kind of nonsensical. That thread was closed, incidentally, because a flame war was brewing with the Belt stuff.

You might try posting this somewhere else on the forum if you really want to discuss. My suggestion would be "off topic."
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CK1, glad you're back, man. In the context of my ha ha funny "$39 Fuse" troll thread, this discussion was kind of interesting, and mildly amusing, but here as a separate post in the bass guitar amplifier section of TalkBass, its off-topic and at worst, kind of nonsensical. That thread was closed, incidentally, because a flame war was brewing with the Belt stuff.

You might try posting this somewhere else on the forum if you really want to discuss. My suggestion would be "off topic."
Well I looked at ALL the forums to find the most appropriate forum for this message. This was the most appropriate subforum I could find. I dont see how its off-topic, since this subforum is a general discussion about bass guitars, right? And my msg is about improving the sound of bass guitars. "Off-topic" forum is about anything but bass guitars and music, so it doesn't seem like the right forum either.
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"Off-topic" forum is about anything but bass guitars and music, so it doesn't seem like the right forum either.
Yet, somehow, it does. Just trying to be helpful. Carry on.
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Ok. I did this test, only I didn't have a fine black marker. So I used peanut butter. I definitely hear a difference in about the 2.5khz range when I took put my peanut butter CD outside and in my car.

(I used a Nickelback CD for this test. I plan to repeat the test with a Victor Wooten CD to see if I hear a difference.)
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Ok. I did this test, only I didn't have a fine black marker. So I used peanut butter. I definitely hear a difference in about the 2.5khz range when I took put my peanut butter CD outside and in my car.

(I used a Nickelback CD for this test. I plan to repeat the test with a Victor Wooten CD to see if I hear a difference.)
hahayesveryfunny. Now try it again properly. You might be surprised.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:45 PM
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Not a very accurate experiment. No control group, and clearly the tester cannot also be the subject. Otherwise some solid science.
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Amazing how people respond very negatively and condescending without trying the test. I'm not saying it will work, and I'm not even going to try, but to immediately attack the OP is subscribe to an elitist/ignorant mentality, IMO. Whatever.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:10 PM
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this is neither music nor bass related. it's "informational fields" related. unfortunately, lacking a forum for such timely topicality, off topic will have to do.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:14 PM
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Amazing how people respond very negatively and condescending without trying the test. I'm not saying it will work, and I'm not even going to try, but to immediately attack the OP is subscribe to an elitist/ignorant mentality, IMO. Whatever.
Did you read the test?????
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I was being serious. I used JIF. My soundman actually resolved this issue for us. When we go on break, he plays music from his ipod - no CDs whatsoever.

Out of curiosity, where in the heck did this topic come from?
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I tried it, but I think a placebo got in the way.
Maybe I'll try it again with my spectral analyzer.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:24 PM
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I tried it, but I think a placebo got in the way.
Maybe I'll try it again with my spectral analyzer.
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:26 PM
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Out of curiosity, where in the heck did this topic come from?
It came from a fevered imagination combined with a clinical degree of narcissism, to the extent needed to actually believe that one's own ears are capable of perceiving magic, and that anyone who doesn't believe in the magic has defective ears and a closed mind.
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