Is downloading music with utorrent illegal?

WarofAges · #1 01-06-2009, 05:25 PM

I was just kinda wondering. It is really conveinant and easy.

I usually just download things i cant buy or afford, but I always buy cds that i really like.

I just dont want the FBI to show up at my house or somethinng...

srh · #2 01-06-2009, 05:26 PM

any kind of torrent is illegal... i know its lame

Ben Lesser · #3 01-06-2009, 05:33 PM

If you're downloading something you can't afford, that means it has a price. If you're obtaining it without paying the price, that's theft. And theft is illegal. So... yes.

tplyons · #4 01-06-2009, 05:34 PM

Yep, you take a product you didn't pay for. That's theft.

Yes, it's very illegal.

WarofAges · #5 01-06-2009, 05:35 PM

some one was telling me a while ago that there was a loop hole i think? like file sharing...like its technically sharing wih random people you dont know?

i dunno.

its worth it for the lil wayne discography

FL Knifemaker · #6 01-06-2009, 05:37 PM

What if you download illegally recorded bootleg music?? Is that illegal??

Honestly, that's all the really intersts me and there's not much available from bands I like. Now if I was a greatful dead head

tplyons · #7 01-06-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WarofAges

some one was telling me a while ago that there was a loop hole i think? like file sharing...like its technically sharing wih random people you dont know?

i dunno.

its worth it for the lil wayne discography

Nope, no loophole, still getting stuff you didn't pay for. Still illegal.

gold_member_321 · #8 01-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Who cares.

The fact that its wrong isn't going to stop the millions that do it, including me.

tplyons · #9 01-06-2009, 05:41 PM

Good job, announcing you knowingly do something illegal on a public internet forum.

TheDarkReaver · #10 01-06-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by srh

any kind of torrent is illegal... i know its lame

The torrents themselves arn't, that's how they exist. Using them to pull together copyrighted material and download them from other people on the other hand is.

WarofAges · #11 01-06-2009, 05:43 PM

uh oh

D.Don · #12 01-06-2009, 05:44 PM

www.deezer.com

100% legal, and free!

D.Don

gold_member_321 · #13 01-06-2009, 05:48 PM

I'm pretty sure if you own and payed for a copy of the media whether it be a music or video then downloading them isn't a legal issue as long as you don't distribute with intent of making profit.

Selta · #14 01-06-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gold_member_321

I'm pretty sure if you own and payed for a copy of the media whether it be a music or video then downloading them isn't a legal issue as long as you don't distribute with intent of making profit.

This hits on a question I've asked many times and have yet to get a stright answer:
I own a *ton* of vinyl (LPs, singles, etc. - about 3,000 in all right now). Now, if I own say The Who, Live at Leeds on vinyl, is it OK for me to go ahead and download it via any manner of my choosing? Or am I responsible for paying for the same thing twice, essentially?
Some say it's OK, as I've already paid for the actual product, and what it was delivered on doesn't matter a lot. Then there's some who say that I paid for a vinyl version, not a CD version (or MP3 etc. etc.) so if I want the digital, I have to actual go pay for it (or buy a TT that I can plug into my computer).
Any ideas?

And OP: You're stealing, that's all there is to it. If your morals can deal with it, I'm sure that you can fly under the radar and never get caught. I won't object my personal opinion on the subject into this thread

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Alcyon · #15 01-06-2009, 05:57 PM

in Canada, it's legal to download but illegal to upload. which just promotes leeching, really.

Scarlet Fire · #16 01-06-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Salamon

This hits on a question I've asked many times and have yet to get a stright answer:
I own a *ton* of vinyl (LPs, singles, etc. - about 3,000 in all right now). Now, if I own say The Who, Live at Leeds on vinyl, is it OK for me to go ahead and download it via any manner of my choosing? Or am I responsible for paying for the same thing twice, essentially?
Some say it's OK, as I've already paid for the actual product, and what it was delivered on doesn't matter a lot. Then there's some who say that I paid for a vinyl version, not a CD version (or MP3 etc. etc.) so if I want the digital, I have to actual go pay for it (or buy a TT that I can plug into my computer).
Any ideas?

And OP: You're stealing, that's all there is to it. If your morals can deal with it, I'm sure that you can fly under the radar and never get caught. I won't object my personal opinion on the subject into this thread

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According to the RIAA, you have to pay for the music even if you already own it on a different medium.

Selta · #17 01-06-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarlet Fire

According to the RIAA, you have to pay for the music even if you already own it on a different medium.

Not to be a total b**ch about it, but can you cite anything that shows that? I was told that once before and couldn't find it on my own. Thanks if you can

santucci218 · #18 01-06-2009, 06:59 PM

so buying a cd and burning it is illegal?

Dash Rantic · #19 01-06-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by srh

any kind of torrent is illegal... i know its lame

That's not true. Downloading unpaid-for copyrighted material to your computer via any method, be it Bittorrent or otherwise, is illegal. However, there are legitimate uses for Bittorrent, but they tend to get overshadowed by the music/movie downloaders.

Someone brought up a good point about things like live concert bootlegs, I don't know the legality of downloading items such as those. Would be interesting to find out, however.

-Dash

lunarpollen · #20 01-06-2009, 07:15 PM

If it's copyrighted material being distributed without the owners' permission, it's illegal. However, it's not the same as stealing or theft, as it's not depleting the rightful owner's inventory. But it's still illegal. However, merely using µtorrent isn't illegal, as it's just a tool that can be used for sharing permitted and unprotected files.

You should always keep something like PeerGuradian running (and updated with latest definitions lists, much like anti-virus and anti-spyware software), especially when using programs like µtorrent. It helps keep malicious and spoofed connections from reaching your machine. A lot of the latest definitions lists for PeerGuardian include known IP addresses for spies for media and governments. Sometimes though, PeerGuardian prevents connections from being made to services you'd like to connect to, like some streaming media sites (news videos, internet radio stations, etc.), but in that case you can select that site's IP address from the constantly-updating log of blocked IPs and either allow it permently or allow it temporarily.