Dress code (mostly about idiot bouncers)

[kserg]

I can't be mad at this, it's just too funny.

So, going out for my friends birthday... 10 of us going to this bar/club downtown San Jose (I hate downtown San Jose btw).


So show up to this place called "Mission Ale house". Nothing but I want to be ghetto, san jose represent!, bunch of people fighting outside, falling down, bunch of "I want to be a thug" kids dressed like clowns. I am wearing a t-shirt and black basketball shorts (pretty clean, not sagging or anything). Everyone goes in, pays the cover and i follow. Bouncer stops me with "I am sorry, we have a dress code." pretty confused at this point I ask him "what?" Guy points at my shorts... Now very confused because everyone before me were wearing shorts, buddy of mine has ripped camo shorts, other cargo shorts... I point that out to him, bouncer goes "yeah, our dress code is "No basketball shorts in the CLUB" (It's a basically dive bar with a patio in the back). I laugh, ask him if he was serious (I thought it was a joke for a second.) He was serious... He has 2 girls fighting and fallen over, he is concern that i am wearing basketball shorts.

I walked passed the peace of garbage call up my buddy tell him that the peace of **** won't let me in... 4 of us walk out. We go towards the back to see if rest of them are there to let them know. Back is fenced off patio. with another bouncer who starts yelling at us because we are standing next the the fence. Told us if we don't leave he will come out there and "show us whats up". We are standing on the street next to his precious fence.

These people act so tough for no reason, I can't do anything but laugh in their faces. It's so ridiculous. We stood there trying to call our friends out from the place for few more minutes as he was threatening us. I wasn't even mad, I just found the whole thing funny. They got people fighting and they are worried about us. The looser never did come out. I am pretty sure that if he did try to fight us for being next to his "club" i would have taken the short chubby trash out with no problem.

After several years of being in bars with bands and such, I concluded that the bouncers like these generally don't know how to fight. They rely on their doucheness to scare these kids. Generally speaking, I think the polite, nice bouncers are the ones you don't want to mess with. They don't need to be douches because they know if they need to they can handle the situation.


Just found whole thing funny, hope you did too.

[Unrepresented]

I also like to go online to tell stories about people I could've beaten up. We should start a club.

[iamlowsound]

The bouncers that you never want to mess with are the short skinny ones. They are the ones that can rip your arm off and break it over your head before you have one word out of your mouth.

lowsound

[kserg]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

I also like to go online to tell stories about people I could've beaten up. We should start a club.

Why don't you just never read my posts. There is lovely ignore list we have, use it.

Thanks

[cdef]

In my experience, guys who get to be bouncers and doormen are generally not the sharpest blades in the drawer. They may have other desirable qualities, such as being brawny, inflexible and able to follow clear orders. Therefore, it's mostly counterproductive to start arguing with them. Your best bet in these situations is saying something like "OK, I see you have your job cut out for you" and leave with no fuss. This will at least make them remember you as a reasonable guy.

(Not that I've ever even tried getting into a bar wearing basketball shorts.)

[kserg]

Originally Posted by iamlowsound

The bouncers that you never want to mess with are the short skinny ones. They are the ones that can rip your arm off and break it over your head before you have one word out of your mouth.

lowsound

This guy looked more like a pacman

Originally Posted by cdef

In my experience, guys who get to be bouncers and doormen are generally not the sharpest blades in the drawer. They may have other desirable qualities, such as being brawny, inflexible and able to follow clear orders. Therefore, it's mostly counterproductive to start arguing with them. Your best bet in these situations is saying something like "OK, I see you have your job cut out for you" and leave with no fuss. This will at least make them remember you as a reasonable guy.

(Not that I've ever even tried getting into a bar wearing basketball shorts.)

Oh nah, don't get me wrong, I didn't say anything to provoke these guys. Extent of my conversation was me being surprised and asking him if he was serious and tell the chubby idiot that we are leaving. Laughing i could not help because they looked so ridiculous. I tried to contain it.

If anyone else besides that guy who posted before think this thread is about me being tough and posting about it on the internet - It is not, just something that i found funny. Seriously, I didn't say that i could probably take him out because i am strong, more because the guy could barely move he was so short and fat. I mean i an fat as hell, but I can still move, he didn't look like he could, he was a giant ball with short legs.

[Unrepresented]

Originally Posted by kserg

Why don't you just never read my posts. There is lovely ignore list we have, use it.

Thanks

Better be careful with that attitude, I might just go on the internet and tell people about how I could've beaten you up.

[kserg]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

Better be careful with that attitude, I might just go on the internet and tell people about how I could've beaten you up.

Ok, I'll use it.

Thanks.

[Bad Brains]

You couldn't pay me to go to a bar with a dress code. If they don't like how I dress, I will just take my money somewhere else.

[popinfresh]

Originally Posted by iamlowsound

The bouncers that you never want to mess with are the short skinny ones. They are the ones that can rip your arm off and break it over your head before you have one word out of your mouth.

lowsound

Definitely, I learnt Muay Thai from a guy who did bouncer work for a bit of extra cash. He was short, skinny, about 40 or so years old, yet could drop my tattoo artist who is a very big and built guy with ease, let alone knobs out at a pub. Plus he was the quietest and most peaceful guy i've ever met.

Speaking of stupid codes. I went out last night to a place just off 17th. First off, I couldn't wear my new vans. They're half cabs, very neat and clean and didn't look out of place at all. So I had to wear a friends old pair of dress shoes which were scuffed up, dirty, didn't fit and also looked stupid with cuffed levis and my t-shirt/plaid dress shirt.

Next I couldn't get in because the place was apparently over 25's only, even though most of my mates were already in there and all aged 23. I was then told if I came with a girl (I did but she already got in) that I would have been let in, because the 'dress code' didn't apply to girls. I tried to explain that the dress code has nothing to do with age but they wouldn't have any of it. I also tried to explain that I was there for my 21st and a friends 23rd and that all I wanted to do was celebrate my bday and buy a few drinks with all my friends in there already.
After about 15-20 minutes of waiting outside as a few other friends either got let in or not, though none were over 25, they finally let me and another friend in.
What's the point? They could have just let me in there in the beginning. Their reasoning was that everyone under 25 starts fights

Editors note: I would never have gone near a place if it weren't for my friends birthday as well, and her wanting to go there. Dress codes and overpriced drinks = no thanks.

[skidrawk]

There are some dress codes that don't make any sense. I remember one Sunday (football season) I show up at a club wearing an NFL football jersey. I get in, no problem, spent a few hours in there, spent some money, then around midnight my date who had met me up there decides to call it a night. I close out my tab since I decide to cash it the rest of the night and then walk her to her vehicle. I kiss her and tell her I'm going to rejoin my group and send her on her way. On my way back in I get stopped for my jersey and they tell me that its against the dress code. They acknowledge that I've been in there all night and comment that I "slipped" through. OK no prob. I had already closed out my tab. I had a dress shirt in the van but kindly let them know that instead of changing, that I was just gonna call it a night. I mean really if they don't need my business, I'll take it elsewhere.

[skidrawk]

Also from what I understand some places "lift" the dress code depending on the time/day of the week it is.

[bassybill]

Originally Posted by popinfresh

Definitely, I learnt Muay Thai from a guy who did bouncer work for a bit of extra cash. He was short, skinny, about 40 or so years old, yet could drop my tattoo artist who is a very big and built guy with ease, let alone knobs out at a pub. Plus he was the quietest and most peaceful guy i've ever met.

Speaking of stupid codes. I went out last night to a place just off 17th. First off, I couldn't wear my new vans. They're half cabs, very neat and clean and didn't look out of place at all. So I had to wear a friends old pair of dress shoes which were scuffed up, dirty, didn't fit and also looked stupid with cuffed levis and my t-shirt/plaid dress shirt.

Next I couldn't get in because the place was apparently over 25's only, even though most of my mates were already in there and all aged 23. I was then told if I came with a girl (I did but she already got in) that I would have been let in, because the 'dress code' didn't apply to girls. I tried to explain that the dress code has nothing to do with age but they wouldn't have any of it. I also tried to explain that I was there for my 21st and a friends 23rd and that all I wanted to do was celebrate my bday and buy a few drinks with all my friends in there already.
After about 15-20 minutes of waiting outside as a few other friends either got let in or not, though none were over 25, they finally let me and another friend in.
What's the point? They could have just let me in there in the beginning. Their reasoning was that everyone under 25 starts fights

Editors note: I would never have gone near a place if it weren't for my friends birthday as well, and her wanting to go there. Dress codes and overpriced drinks = no thanks.

Sounds like whining to me.

[Kyon`]

Dude, no the one worst spot in the South Bay is the spot... quite honestly I'll admit I like San Jose but we have the worst downtown. It's almost always dead beyond what you describe and really those are just bars with some flashy lights. And most San Jose bouncers aren't even tough or like the ones that can actually rip you a new one... it's San Jose >,>;... Campbell is just sad though.

[popinfresh]

Originally Posted by bassybill

Sounds like whining to me.

I didn't get my money back though

[MakiSupaStar]

[arbitrary]

Originally Posted by Unrepresented

Better be careful with that attitude, I might just go on the internet and tell people about how I could've beaten you up.

I know this guy is being all trollish or whatever, but that did make me laugh. And the internet makes me laugh so very little.

[CrashClint]

Bouncers and be real jerks!

Years ago while I was living in Hampton, VA I went to a bar with a baseball cap on. I am making my way to the bar when I get stopped and the bouncer tells me, No Hats Allowed! I look around and there are people wearing cowboy hats all over the bar. I question him and he gets bent out of shape quick and tells me and a friend we have to leave. Me and my friend are walking to the door talking to each other about how this bar is BS. The bouncer is behind us and as I get close to the door I slow down because people are coming in. He takes his finger tips and pushes the back of my head. What the jerk didn't realize is my buddy was a Navy Seal until he blew out his knee. My buddy is only about 5'6, not super muscular but solid and holds black belts in about four different marshal arts. Well the bouncer tried to do the same to him as we were walking through the door way. The bouncer caught a mean left elbow to the nose, it was like it exploded. Then he did a kick to his inner thigh which dropped him to the ground like a rock face first. We got outside and ran.

We came back a couple hours later with another friend who went and picked up the car so we wouldn't be seen.

[Jared Lash]

When I was bartending in college I became good friends with our primary bouncer. Kevin was a former college linebacker and boxer and ran a gym during the day. He must have been around 6'2" and 230lbs. And yet I only ever saw him get physical (or even threaten to get physical) two or three times tops.

I saw a drunk stand nose to nose with him, spitting out a stream of expletives and racial epithets (including the n word) and he just calmly walked the guy out.

And even when some guy had the badly misguided notion to take a swing at him only to find himself laid out with one quick gut shot, Kev used only the amount of force that was necessary and no more. Hands down the best bouncer I ever met, and a great dude too.

Something I've learned over the years - the really tough guys have no need to act tough, they just are.

[D Rokk]

Originally Posted by arbitrary

I know this guy is being all trollish or whatever, but that did make me laugh. And the internet makes me laugh so very little.

he openly admits to trolling in the "your posting habits" thread.. i believe that is against the TB terms of service