Drug and Alcohol Culture...

[Brent's Groove]

Does anyone know of a good reference that describes the characteristics of people who use various drugs and alcohol?

I'm trying to learn more about things like drug/alcohol ettiquite, lingo, stereotypes, activities while under the influence, etc. I don't really need a definition of what heroin does or what a hangover feels like; I'm looking for all the other details that are hard to find information on.

Also, this isn't a "Sober vs. Wasted" thread, and it's not a "(Drug) Should be Legal" thread. So, please, nothing too holier-than-thou or overtly analytical.

Thanks for the help!

EDIT: The reason I'm asking is because I want to understand why most of my friends, and my peer group (Generation Y) would typically rather smoke pot and snort perscription pills rather than go to the bar for a drink. For the record, I've tried lots of things, and didn't really like any of it (with one EXPENSIVE exception). I'm just trying to find some personal understanding, especially since I'm one of the few and proud young people who'd rather have a beer than a vicotin.

[Joe Gress]

As in films, books, shows, plays and the like?

[tplyons]

It really seems to be a loaded question, but I spend a lot of time at college with a lot of drunks. It's got a bunch of negative connotations, but it can be a blast, if you're not getting absolutely WASTED.

Frankly, it's hard to describe, something you need to experience on your own, legally of course.

I can't comment on anything but alcohol.

[Brent's Groove]

Originally Posted by joeinsprings

As in films, books, shows, plays and the like?

Yeah, that's cool.
I'm kinda looking for some kind of website or article, but media and art work just as well.

[KingCrimson]

i dunno what youre talking about kids seem to love to drink (and smoke pot), around here i haven't seen much of the other stuff used by the masses, albeit there is some use of other cheap pills and such its still not even close to used as much the main 2 (alchohol, pot).

I'm glad really that i don't see much of the other stuff

[Fontaine]

id much rather drink, mostly because i "personally" see it as less damaging to my life compared to drugs. I can control my drinking if i please, but seeing is how im in college i choose not to

[flakeh]

Pineapple express. Watch it. Sums up activities while high.

I don't know how far we are allowed to talk about drugs on this board, I've been B&hammered once before, So PM if you want more detailed info.

[Metal Matt]

Originally Posted by Brent's Groove

EDIT: The reason I'm asking is because I want to understand why most of my friends, and my peer group (Generation Y) would typically rather smoke pot and snort perscription pills rather than go to the bar for a drink. For the record, I've tried lots of things, and didn't really like any of it (with one EXPENSIVE exception). I'm just trying to find some personal understanding, especially since I'm one of the few and proud young people who'd rather have a beer than a vicotin.

I smoke pot and drink. I drink maybe 1-3 times a week. When I say drink I mean a few beers at the bar with friends. If I have pot, then I'll probably smoke every night before bed. If I don't have pot... it's no concern at all. Life goes on.

Now, here's why I'd rather smoke pot than drink...

I drank for the first time when I was 15 - 16. For awhile one summer... I think I was 16 or 17, I was drinking about 3 times a week, and was also drinking heavy stuff. Alcoholism runs in my family, which is something I've always known... But I was drinking three times a week, always heavy stuff, and one day I decided I didn't want to drink... I'd just go and hang out... I ended up having the urge to drink and I did and that scared the sh!t out of me. I remembered how a family member of mine used to be and at 17 I knew I didn't want that. So I stopped drinking for like 2 months and started again, but this time way less often, although I always found myself getting hammered whenever I drank. That was no big deal to me though.

Recently, after losing my invulnerability to hard liquor I've cut back A LOT on drinking. Seeing the above mentioned family member relapse wasn't doing much in the way of making me want to drink either. I used to want to party hard every weekend, now I'm down with going to the bar and not even drinking, or only having a few beers.

Now as far as pot goes..

I tried pot for the first time in late 2007. For the whole year leading up to it, smoking pot was something I was mulling over in my head. I realized it wasn't the horrible evil drug it's made out to be by our government and by school and everything else. I finally tried it and enjoyed it. I've never bought pot. Friends are always willing to share at parties, and when I want some of my own, well I thieve it from a family member. ha When I have my own, like I said above, I'll smoke just about every night like an hour or so before I go to bed. If I did this with alcohol, I'm 100% certain that I wouldn't be able to stop. With pot, I can smoke all I want, and then when I want to take a break, or run out of pot... I can stop, feel no anxiety over it or anything. Now, this next part sounds very cliche but pot has sort of opened my mind up as far as music, and I attribute my enjoyment of certain genres of music to hearing them the first time while I was high. Being a musician the fact pot has done this for me is awesome. Pot makes me a calmer less hostile angry person than I used to be. Once again, can't complain about that... Plus there's no hangover with pot. Oh and as far as activities... well, anything is enjoyable while you're high. haha

On top of all that, pot is way safer than alcohol. Yet it's illegal.


So, that's my point of view on the whole thing. Can't speak for anyone else though. I can't really say much else about my opinions without getting into discussion about the legality of pot. Hope this post helps.

[Kruton]

Originally Posted by Brent's Groove

especially since I'm one of the few and proud young people who'd rather have a beer than a vicotin.

I think it is funny that you're proud because you choose one drug over another.

To find the answer to question, talk to your friends

[jazzy grille]

Down here we have some affectionate and rather odd names for Marijuana:

-Wood
-Mr. Miyagi
-Winnie the pooh
-Ookie bookie

Or maybe me and my friends are just weird...

I smoke like chimney, but if it is not what you are into then there is no point in trying to figure it out or understand it... You are probably better of staying away from it.

I got baked everyday before Jr. High and High school and it really made my grades suffer, I got over it for a while when I was in community college and I can really say that if I didn't I probably wouldn't have made it though.

[jazzy grille]

Originally Posted by Kruton

I think it is funny that you're proud because you choose one drug over another.

To find the answer to question, talk to your friends

I think it's pretty good, you ever seen what Vicodin does to someone when they take it for a while?

Prescription drugs are the worst.

[Bad Brains]

Originally Posted by Brent's Groove

I'm just trying to find some personal understanding, especially since I'm one of the few and proud young people who'd rather have a beer than a vicotin.

Alcohol is just as dangerous, destructive, and addicting as any other drug out there. Sometimes alcohol is not someones drug of choice.

[Bad Brains]

Originally Posted by jazzy grille

I think it's pretty good, you ever seen what Vicodin does to someone when they take it for a while?

Ever seen what alcohol does to someone when they drink it for a while?

[Kruton]

Originally Posted by jazzy grille

I think it's pretty good, you ever seen what Vicodin does to someone when they take it for a while?

Prescription drugs are the worst.

Ever see what alcohol can do to people?

The only difference between alcohol and unprescribed Vicodin is legality. And does the law really know what's best for you? No coughmarijuanacough

[tplyons]

Originally Posted by Brent's Groove

EDIT: The reason I'm asking is because I want to understand why most of my friends, and my peer group (Generation Y) would typically rather smoke pot and snort perscription pills rather than go to the bar for a drink. For the record, I've tried lots of things, and didn't really like any of it (with one EXPENSIVE exception). I'm just trying to find some personal understanding, especially since I'm one of the few and proud young people who'd rather have a beer than a vicotin.

Okay, I definitely understand your point of view a lot more:

By no means am I straight edge: I enjoy a drink now and then, not too often, probably once or twice a week. I drink mostly socially, and occasionally I'll sit at home playing video games on a relaxing night with a beer.

However, I did spend a weekend in Florida on a leadership conference for school (you would think this would attract the best and the brightest) but after a day at the conference, most of us went out to a club and had a few drinks and rocked out to the music. We came home to the hotel at 2 AM, most of us were exhausted, some were absolutely hammered and hung out for a bit, and had a few more drinks.

Needless to say, we were watching some boring TV show about nothing, and someone started crushing a Percocet, and a few people snorted some lines, and it turns out that they split it so many ways, so nobody got high off it. They next turned to a muscle relaxer and then something else. Not only snorting drugs they weren't prescribed, but mixing them with each other and alcohol.

Needless to say, that's about the point where I hit the hay. I had attempted a line of Percocet the night before, and didn't do much for me, then again, it's only a small percentage of the proper dosage. I've used Percocet to help me sleep before so I'll admit I'm not 100% for using drugs only when prescribed, they were leftovers from having my wisdom teeth removed.

I guess it's something that I too will never understand. I'm not saying I won't try a few things to try to understand, but I'll still stand back and watch to try to understand first from the outside.

[Brent's Groove]

Originally Posted by Kruton

I think it is funny that you're proud because you choose one drug over another.

To find the answer to question, talk to your friends

Maybe proud was the wrong word.
I feel like it has potential to be a lesser evil purely because it's not illegal. And I'm very aware of the consequences of alcohol use...trust me.

[tplyons]

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

[Nyarlathotep]

I have never felt the need to take drugs, or even get drunk (all the time), but I do know one thing:

Anything that can inspire something like stoner rock and doom metal can't be all bad

[Brent's Groove]

Originally Posted by tplyons

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

I'm 21.

[excane]

I definitely have some good advice.......but first there's a hooker waiting for me with a line of blow on her ass.... I'll be back.



In all seriousness, I despise drug users. I went to the School of Visual Arts in NYC, and if anybody knows the culture of a liberal art school....I saw some of the scariest S*** I never want to see again.
I like drinking, but not to get drunk. (well, sometimes) I love scotch and bourbon for the flavor, texture, experience, etc. That's it.