Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Off Topic [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Off Topic [BG] Non-music-related discussion and chat


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 12-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Me neither.

He put a reserve for a reason. The OP didn't bid up to that amount. The seller could've sold them for $500 just like he can decide the amount he's comfortable with.

Sounds more to me like frustration on the OP's part that he couldn't get the item at the price he wanted (i.e. $300 less than the price the seller wanted).

Somewhere, there's a msg board where the seller is ranting about eBay stupidities related to bidders who think they're entitled to getting items at the price they want.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by wabbit View Post
I didn't know whether to laugh .... or cry .... or vomit profusely .... so I just decided to do all three and now the inside of my nose smells like burning.
  #22  
Old 12-11-2012, 09:19 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
i dont get what i want all the time either.
  #23  
Old 12-11-2012, 09:48 AM
EricF's Avatar
The older I get, the better I was.
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pasadena, CA
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1958Bassman View Post
It's possible that the original owner bought them when they were more expensive and a current model and the price he was asking may be more reasonable for used, relative to the original price. Now that they're discontinued, the price went down and, at least from Sweetwater, they're no longer available. Their price in the link is $499 each and shows a list price of $625. $1250 down to $825 isn't as "unreasonable" as going from $998 to $825.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BM5A/
The seller may have bought them for $1250, but I doubt it. The BM5As have been selling at music retailers for $499 each for many years. The current model (Mk II) is also selling for $499 each at retailers, and can easily be had for $700-$800 per pair on eBay (new).

I guess my frustration has mostly to do with his unrealistic expectation of current value on the used market for these monitors.

As others have said, he has the right to try and sell them for whatever he feels like, so I guess my frustration is groundless.

It's over and done with it now. My pair of new BM5A Mk IIs are in the hands of the men in brown. I'm happy with my deal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yodedude2 View Post
cool story. i'm not getting the 'stupidity' part, though.
I guess frustration with an unrealistic seller is probably more accurate.
  #24  
Old 12-11-2012, 12:22 PM
yodedude2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: rio grande valley, texas
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricF View Post

I guess frustration with an unrealistic seller is probably more accurate.
it turned out better for you...you got yourself some brand new speakers instead of his crummy used ones!
__________________
"You're a bass player. You can get gigs. Bands want you. Chicks dig you."- kesslari / "Why does everyone always complain about things that will make idiots easier to spot from farther away?"-Curtybob
  #25  
Old 12-11-2012, 02:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricF View Post
The seller may have bought them for $1250, but I doubt it. The BM5As have been selling at music retailers for $499 each for many years. The current model (Mk II) is also selling for $499 each at retailers, and can easily be had for $700-$800 per pair on eBay (new).

I guess my frustration has mostly to do with his unrealistic expectation of current value on the used market for these monitors.

As others have said, he has the right to try and sell them for whatever he feels like, so I guess my frustration is groundless.

It's over and done with it now. My pair of new BM5A Mk IIs are in the hands of the men in brown. I'm happy with my deal.

I guess frustration with an unrealistic seller is probably more accurate.
The thing about selling something- he may not really want to, but he wanted to see if he would get any nibbles. Nobody wants to take a bath on something they paid for, so the seller will ask for more than what some may see as realistic. I knew someone who bought and sold a lot of cars and when someone told him to make an offer, he always said "Well, I start at zero". It may make some laugh and some will be insulted. I looked at an Oahu lap steel amp and the guy wanted $200. The power cord had 2" of insulation missing and, as it turns out, V1 and V2 positions had been swapped. He said it worked great but I thought "Dude, if you had plugged this in, the only thing that would have lit up is you", so I told him that it would probably end up being more of a "sit on the shelf and look perty" kind of thing and at the time, that's kind of a main reason I looked at it. He told me to make an offer and I asked "At what point would you be insulted?" and I gave $20 more than that. I thought it was fair and he didn't really know what he had. Later, my curiosity got the best of me, and I just had to hear it so I went through it well. It's really a neat little amp.

But, I digress. Put yourself in his position- do you want people to low-ball you when you try to sell something that cost you a chunk of money? I don't think so. That's why haggling is so prevalent in most of the world. If the two sides can't reach an agreement, the sale doesn't happen.

Ever see the definition of a 'good deal'? It's when neither side really likes the price but they can live with it.
  #26  
Old 12-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
I listened to the original ones at Guitar Center and the room where they have all of their monitors and effects has their sound treatment display. That would normally be fine, but it's on the right wall and there's nothing on the left, to provide symmetry. It felt like my ears were being sucked out of my head, which is the effect of phase cancellations and it's not very comfortable. Nice speakers- they had a pair that were dropped and the magnet came off of the tweeter, dinged the cabinet, etc. I'm a Dynaudio speaker dealer, but not the pro stuff. I can buy parts directly for repair but even at my dealer cost, they would have been too much, considering what they were asking. I don't think it was less than $700. I would never pay full pop for dropped speakers, no matter what brand.
  #27  
Old 12-11-2012, 05:48 PM
EricF's Avatar
The older I get, the better I was.
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pasadena, CA
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1958Bassman View Post
I listened to the original ones at Guitar Center and the room where they have all of their monitors and effects has their sound treatment display. That would normally be fine, but it's on the right wall and there's nothing on the left, to provide symmetry. It felt like my ears were being sucked out of my head, which is the effect of phase cancellations and it's not very comfortable. Nice speakers- they had a pair that were dropped and the magnet came off of the tweeter, dinged the cabinet, etc. I'm a Dynaudio speaker dealer, but not the pro stuff. I can buy parts directly for repair but even at my dealer cost, they would have been too much, considering what they were asking. I don't think it was less than $700. I would never pay full pop for dropped speakers, no matter what brand.
I have often been surprised at how bad the setup on the wall of monitors is at various GCs in my area. They'll never sound the same as they will in your own room, but at least provide a symetrical environment so as not to make things even worse. That's one of the basic steps of monitoring setup.
  #28  
Old 12-11-2012, 06:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricF View Post
I have often been surprised at how bad the setup on the wall of monitors is at various GCs in my area. They'll never sound the same as they will in your own room, but at least provide a symetrical environment so as not to make things even worse. That's one of the basic steps of monitoring setup.
Do people buy from GC because of their pricing, or because they're the best source of information?

I bought my Baja Tele from GC because they had a great price and because I needed my annual "Dude!" fix.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Visit TalkBass on Facebook   Download our iOS app   Download our Android app

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:21 PM.




© 2012 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar too? Visit TalkGuitar.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.