EX employer rant

iamlowsound · #1 01-11-2008, 01:42 PM

Here is the story, I worked the summer for a small construction company and when I was done at the end of the summer they still owed me all of my vacation pay and my record of employment, I am supposed to have this within 7 business days BY LAW. Then just before Christmas my new employer lays me off. So to be able to collect unemployment pay (mooching off the government) I have to have my record of employment from everyone that I have worked for in the last 4 months, still includes the guy I worked for in the summer. Thing is, they still haven't given me my record of employment.

So I phone them up and tell them that they owe me money and my record of employment. They said that they would get it to me within the week. This was before Christmas. Fast-forward to today, I still don't have my money or my ROE, so I went to pay the owners wife a little visit (she is their bookkeeper), I tell her that they have until next Friday to get me what they owe me or I am calling the Labour board to report them. She aparently wasn't too happy about this and called her husband (the owner) who then called me and yelled at me for talking to his wife and not him. Now you have to understand, this guy was a pain to work for at time. You would hand in your hours, then on payday he would come up to you and say that he lost your hours so there isn't a paycheque for you. This happened all the time. So I wasn't about to talk to him about it, because he would have just forgot.

I ended up telling him that he has until Friday to get me the stuff, or he is being reported. He then blames me for not reminding him. Sorry, but that isn't my problem. You have to have that stuff to me BY LAW withing 7 business days.

Anyone know what I can do beyond reporting him if I don't get the stuff? Beyond breaking his knees (he is a big guy, I wouldn't stand a chance)?

lowsound

MakiSupaStar · #2 01-11-2008, 01:46 PM

Report him anyway.

MJ5150 · #3 01-11-2008, 01:52 PM

Like Maki said, report him anyway. Do it right now, don't wait. I worked in the construction industry for 17+ years, and these kind of guys give us all a bad name.

In the USA, the unemployment office has the ability to gather that info electronically. Perhaps Canada should step up their technology to the 2000's.

-Mike

mjolnir · #4 01-11-2008, 01:57 PM

Yer being too nice, pal. Sounds like this guy isn't just being a douche now, he's always BEEN a douche, and he doesn't deserve any more courtesy than you've already given him. You tried to be the good guy and he's spitting in yer face for it. Report him.

MJ5150 · #5 01-11-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mjolnir

Yer being too nice, pal. Sounds like this guy isn't just being a douche now, he's always BEEN a douche, and he doesn't deserve any more courtesy than you've already given him. You tried to be the good guy and he's spitting in yer face for it. Report him.

Again, I agree with the guy posting above me. Your former employer knows nothing is really going to happen on Friday, so he doesn't care. To him, it's an idle threat that you'll just keep extending and extending because you're ultimately afraid to report him and get him in trouble. He knows you're going to need a job later down the road, and if you report him, he will never hire you back.

A phone call from your labour office will get you the report you want much faster than you saying "if you don't do this by then, I'm going to.....".

-Mike

iamlowsound · #6 01-11-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ5150

Like Maki said, report him anyway. Do it right now, don't wait. I worked in the construction industry for 17+ years, and these kind of guys give us all a bad name.

In the USA, the unemployment office has the ability to gather that info electronically. Perhaps Canada should step up their technology to the 2000's.

-Mike

Well all of that can be collected electronically, but you have to have a 5 number "pin" number that you have to submit on the website and that comes on the ROE. You have to do that before your two week waiting period starts (you have to wait two weeks before you start getting unemployment, so you get your first cheque one month after getting laid off).

I would report him right now, but I gave him my word that I wouldn't until next Friday. I like to keep my word.

Anything I can do beyond reporting him? Also, another ex employee of his had this same problem.

lowsound

mjolnir · #7 01-11-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by iamlowsound

Well all of that can be collected electronically, but you have to have a 5 number "pin" number that you have to submit on the website and that comes on the ROE. You have to do that before your two week waiting period starts (you have to wait two weeks before you start getting unemployment, so you get your first cheque one month after getting laid off).

I would report him right now, but I gave him my word that I wouldn't until next Friday. I like to keep my word.

Anything I can do beyond reporting him? Also, another ex employee of his had this same problem.

lowsound

Fair nuff, remain honorable and wait
till next Friday to report him. But IMHO it's safe to assume you won't get results by then.

How did the other ex employee handle the situation?

iamlowsound · #8 01-11-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ5150

Again, I agree with the guy posting above me. He knows nothing is really going to happen on Friday, so he doesn't care. To him, it's an idle threat that you'll just keep extending and extending because you're ultimately afraid to report him and get him in trouble. He knows you're going to need a job later down the road, and if you report him, he will never hire you back.

A phone call from your labour office will get you the report you want much faster than you saying "if you don't do this by then, I'm going to.....".

-Mike

He knows I will do it. I would never go work for him again, too much of a hassle. I have a good job now, just got slow for a few months. I actually got hired back and had work all week, and I will all winter as well. So I don't really NEED my ROE, but I still want it.

lowsound

middy · #9 01-11-2008, 02:20 PM

Egg his house?

I'm not sure what you mean by, "Anything I can do beyond reporting him?"

iamlowsound · #10 01-11-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mjolnir

Fair nuff, remain honorable and wait
till next Friday to report him. But IMHO it's safe to assume you won't get results by then.

How did the other ex employee handle the situation?

I am assuming that I wont have the stuff by then, thus why I want to know what else I can do.

The other ex employee just kept bugging him until he got it.

I also don't want to make him too mad at me, but it will probably take that, because he is a friend of my dads.

lowsound

iamlowsound · #11 01-11-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by middy

Egg his house?

I'm not sure what you mean by, "Anything I can do beyond reporting him?"

If I report him and I still don't get it, what can I do?

lowsound

mjolnir · #12 01-11-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by iamlowsound

If I report him and I still don't get it, what can I do?

lowsound

An iron rod, good aim (specifically towards kneecaps) some duct tape, and a pineapple.

I'll leave it up to you to figure out what to do with the pineapple.

louieeadg · #13 01-11-2008, 02:35 PM

Call once a day and visit once a day until you get your stuff.

iamlowsound · #14 01-11-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by louieeadg

Call once a day and visit once a day until you get your stuff.

Planning on it. I was thinking of a knife and tires, while that would be rather funny, it would also get me in trouble.

lowsound

louieeadg · #15 01-11-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iamlowsound

Planning on it. I was thinking of a knife and tires, while that would be rather funny, it would also get me in trouble.

lowsound

Potato in the exhaust. Doesn't cause physical damage and will make him call a mechanic because he can't start the car.

stedtale · #16 01-11-2008, 02:48 PM

you could always try the ol' fork-in-the-eye.

stedtale · #17 01-11-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by louieeadg

Potato in the exhaust. Doesn't cause physical damage and will make him call a mechanic because he can't start the car.

mythbusters disproved that. while a blocked exhaust will stop the engine, the potato, due to it's moisture content, does not have enough friction to stay in the exhaust pipe when the force of a running engine is applied. But the ol' fork-in-the-eye never fails.

Bryan316 · #18 01-11-2008, 02:51 PM

POTATO.

MOST CERTAINLY.

And...

Vaseline his windshield, then lay a few sheets of saran wrap over it. He gets into his car, wonders what happened to his windshield, initial reflex is to hit the wiper blades, and he's got one sticky slimy mess all over his wiper blades.

louieeadg · #19 01-11-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan316

POTATO.

MOST CERTAINLY.

And...

Vaseline his windshield, then lay a few sheets of saran wrap over it. He gets into his car, wonders what happened to his windshield, initial reflex is to hit the wiper blades, and he's got one sticky slimy mess all over his wiper blades.

Sort of on the same token. Dump a whole bottle of Dawn on his windows...especially when it's cold. He'll try to wash it with wiper fluid but he'll have a sudsy mess on his hands...

Lalabadie · #20 01-11-2008, 02:58 PM

Potato in exhaust, with a whistle. This is golden. Carve him a nice hollow potato with a whistle as the only way for air to get out. Then push it deep in. Especially great on a friday afternoon when he tries to start his weekend early

Or the good ol' fork in the eye.