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11-18-2009, 06:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ohio | | | The fish is ALWAYS fresh, even in Kansas
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What the... 
Yeah, I think I'll be skipping lunch today...
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11-18-2009, 07:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Augusta, GA & Saint Louis, MO | | | I believe the Japanese devised this or a similar method called Ikizukuri. Basically its the art of preparing and serving the fish while it's still alive, taking it's last gasping breathe on your table. Ikizukuri means "Prepared Alive."
While we're on the topic of sadistic food, look up "Ortolan."
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11-18-2009, 07:32 AM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | | That's disgusting. |
11-18-2009, 08:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | I don't see the point, aside from the "Oooh look it's so cool it's STILL ALIVE MAAAAN!" factor. Why not just kill it quickly and put it out of its misery (well, assuming fish feel pain as mammals do)? I really doubt it has anything to do with it being 'as fresh as possible' or anything like that. It's novelty for the sake of novelty at the expense of a living creature. Shameful.
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11-18-2009, 08:14 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | If I didn't hate the taste of fish so much (Well, Tuna and some sushi is ok.) I would actually love to try that.
The question is whether or not it's safe to eat?
If it's still alive, it can't possibly be fully cooked, can it? |
11-18-2009, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ADbassman While we're on the topic of sadistic food, look up "Ortolan." | The ortolan is one of the dishes of French country cuisine. It is now against the law to sell them in France - but not to eat them.
For centuries, a rite of passage for French gourmets has been the eating of the Ortolan. These tiny birds—captured alive, force-fed, then drowned in Armagnac—were roasted whole and eaten that way, bones and all, while the diner draped his head with a linen napkin to preserve the precious aromas and, some believe, to hide from God. |
11-18-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by line6man If I didn't hate the taste of fish so much (Well, Tuna and some sushi is ok.) I would actually love to try that.
The question is whether or not it's safe to eat?
If it's still alive, it can't possibly be fully cooked, can it? | It looks like the part they're eating is cooked enough.. It'd be pretty much equivalent to roasting your legs and lower half of your abdomen. It wouldn't kill you right away, the heat would cauterize your blood vessels so you wouldn't be bleeding. It'd be like getting serious 3rd degree burns to your extremities pretty much.
My opinion on the video?
Horrible... absolutely horrible. Every time I see something like this, I lose more and more respect for the human race. My respect for them is already down to single digit percentages though, so there really is little hope left... 
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11-18-2009, 08:50 AM
|  | I'm gonna love and tolerate the **** out of you! | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Memphis/Knoxville TN | | I like the fact that the people are laughing about it  |
11-18-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious I don't see the point, aside from the "Oooh look it's so cool it's STILL ALIVE MAAAAN!" factor. Why not just kill it quickly and put it out of its misery (well, assuming fish feel pain as mammals do)? I really doubt it has anything to do with it being 'as fresh as possible' or anything like that. It's novelty for the sake of novelty at the expense of a living creature. Shameful. | This.
Sadly, any store bought fish dies a slow death as well, however. They are plucked out of the water and essentially suffocate in massive nets. 
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11-18-2009, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bett ...Every time I see something like this, I lose more and more respect for the human race. My respect for them is already down to single digit percentages though, so there really is little hope left... | You and me both, man.
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11-18-2009, 09:34 AM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | Meh. Not really my bag. A fish that has suffered for the last hours of its life leading up to the table isn't as appealing to me as eating a slab of fish on the boat from the fish you just caught. From the ocean to my mouth is delicious. From the ocean/lake to a tank to a truck, to a waiting tank, to the table doesn't really sound all that appealing. This actually just seem cruel in the name of a novel way to prove the fish is fresh.
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11-18-2009, 09:43 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Covina (LA), SoCal | | | Nasty! I saw this on a cooking show and was absolutely horrified. What a way to go, huh?
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11-18-2009, 09:50 AM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | Pretty disgusting. Ortolan seems a nice death metal band name, though. 
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11-18-2009, 09:58 AM
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11-18-2009, 10:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. John's, NL | | | I'm not usually one of those guys that is disturbed by hurtful acts to animals (but yes, of course I'm against abusing animals) but this just seems sooooooooooo wrong to me, poor fish.
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11-18-2009, 10:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ohio | | That nice juicy tearing sound as the first chunk of meat and bone is pulled away... 
Vivisection is illegal (or at least very tightly regulated and only in exceptional circumstances) but something like this is not?
On the one hand, it's food; get over it. The suffering makes it tasty.
On the other hand, there's the whole "compassion toward lower life forms that seperates man from beast" thing.
I'll stick with the compassion.
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11-18-2009, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Papazita On the one hand, it's food; get over it. The suffering makes it tasty... | Some cultures believe just the opposite. Pampered animals that lead safe, healthy, and enjoyable lives lead to much better food.
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11-18-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bongomania Reminds me of a friend's roommate who stopped taking her lithium. She went out and spent their rent money on four live lobsters. Put them tail-first into a small sauce pot with only enough water so they were in up to their "waist". Boiled them that way. They were waving their arms and making horrible noises for several minutes. | She should have been boiled the same way.
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11-18-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Perry Some cultures believe just the opposite. Pampered animals that lead safe, healthy, and enjoyable lives lead to much better food. | Yes. I would imagine a tortured animal would taste bitter. In Japan they have premium pork from pigs that eat better than I do. They are also slaughtered quickly so the animal has no fear when it dies. This is the philosophy of the people that raise this meat. Still, this is the same culture that has a genre of sashimi similar to this chinese dish. |
11-18-2009, 12:45 PM
| | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | | An animal raised in a stressful environment will always be a tougher meat. A pampered animal will always be much fattier. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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