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Old 08-11-2011, 12:23 PM
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Flash mobs/racial attacks in Philly and WI? What the heck is wrong with people??

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I've been hearing more and more of this lately (groups of black teens attacking white people at random). Especially here near me in Philly and more recently in WI. I'm not sure if this is selective media "shock and outrage" type reporting where race is being thrown in where it's not truly a factor or if we're truly looking at some sort of new "in thing"...hope not, this is really despicable if so.
It's wrong regardless of racial aspect or not, but in relation to "hate crimes" I would think that this fits the bill.

I have a few articles that I was reading but based on the sources, I'm not 100% about their validity. (hence the asking for incite here) Here's a for instance though:

As video of assault emerges, have 'flash mob' race attacks spread to other cities? Incidents investigated in LA and Chigaco | Mail Online

Wisconsin State Fair: Wisconsin State Fair mob attack 911 tapes released - WITI

If this is in fact the case, what the heck is up with that??
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:45 PM
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I've been hearing more and more of this lately (groups of black teens attacking white people at random).
Which races would you prefer to engage violently with one another?
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:47 PM
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Which races would you prefer to engage violently with one another?
None. Please don't try to get cute with my wording, thanks.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:50 PM
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random attacks are increased in the summer. it will be back to normal soon!

BTW, summer heat plus unemployment are a catalyst for every form of violence and such. domestic abuse and suicide are proably very high right now. i just lost an excellent drummer/friend to suicide just last week. STUNNED!!!
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:51 PM
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Notice they don't do it in areas that have liberal conceal carry laws.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:56 PM
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I've been hearing more and more of this lately (groups of black teens attacking white people at random). Especially here near me in Philly and more recently in WI. I'm not sure if this is selective media "shock and outrage" type reporting where race is being thrown in where it's not truly a factor or if we're truly looking at some sort of new "in thing"...hope not, this is really despicable if so.
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:57 PM
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None. Please don't try to get cute with my wording, thanks.
Just kindly pointing out that the real issue seems to be violence. The race of either the victim or their attackers shouldn't really matter, right?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:00 PM
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Just kindly pointing out that the real issue seems to be violence. The race of either the victim or their attackers shouldn't really matter, right?
No worries. Just a little testy today. (work-related stuff)

But, in the face of hate crimes specifically, yes. I do believe it matters. Not the makeup of the races mind you, but the attacks based ON race.
That the violence should not happen at all is the primary issue though for sure. Absolutely.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:03 PM
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Just kindly pointing out that the real issue seems to be violence. The race of either the victim or their attackers shouldn't really matter, right?
It shouldn't, no. But if the attacks are racially motivated (notice I did say "if"), then surely the racial backgrounds of attackers and victims are pertinent to any discussion of the issues raised by the OP?
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Aren't all crimes hate based?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:05 PM
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Nah, not by a long shot.
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Between the riots in London and all these flash mobs, it seems like social networking is starting to implode on itself.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:12 PM
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Not trying to pick on you, but it seems like an interesting tangent...

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But, in the face of hate crimes specifically, yes. I do believe it matters. Not the makeup of the races mind you, but the attacks based ON race.
What is appropriate to base a violent attack on?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:16 PM
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It shouldn't, no. But if the attacks are racially motivated (notice I did say "if"), then surely the racial backgrounds of attackers and victims are pertinent to any discussion of the issues raised by the OP?
Why? I find myself siding with longhair, violent intentional acts are violent intentional acts, right?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:17 PM
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Not trying to pick on you, but it seems like an interesting tangent...

What is appropriate to base a violent attack on?
Nothing is appropriate. However in the face of hate crime laws, would gangs of folks of one race, singling out and attacking another based on color alone, not constitute a hate crime?
I would think it would so long if it can be proven that race was the motivating factor.
That's the part that I'm unsure about - was it the motivating factor, hence the thread.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:18 PM
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Between the riots in London and all these flash mobs, it seems like social networking is starting to implode on itself.
Wait, since when did social networking become a factor in the London riots?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:22 PM
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Wait, since when did social networking become a factor in the London riots?
Rioters are using IM and BBM to communicate.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:24 PM
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Wait, since when did social networking become a factor in the London riots?
I have read that it had played a part in organizing (if you can call it that) some of the rioting. Not sure of the validity of that though.
In fact... I'm not sure of the validity of any damn thing I read anymore. Generally, the media these days sucks. It's like you can't just read something, you have to immerse yourself into researching it to get anything anywhere near "the real" story.
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