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02-08-2008, 04:56 AM
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02-08-2008, 06:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western PA | | | I like how the media says it was 'foiled' or 'averted.' It wasn't. His conscience stopped him at the last minute.
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02-08-2008, 06:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana | | | Crazy or not, when will our government realize people are fed up with their regulations, their oversight and their confiscatory taxation?
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02-08-2008, 07:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western PA | | | You're going to see a lot more of this as government encroaches more and more on people's livelihoods and property, what with the eminent domain rulings and more and more control over what you can and can't do. A stroke of the pen from a small-****ed bureaucrat that wants to show 'power' can ruin your life in a heartbeat.
I don't condone in any way what he did, but I can understand the desperation one would feel when ****blocked by the .gov.
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02-08-2008, 07:22 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | Are you saying that placing restrictions on liquor licenses is a bad idea?
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02-08-2008, 07:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western PA | | I'm saying that a panel of people who had no investment in the man's business decided, from a post on a blog (not on his application) that a sign that may be placed on the premises were inappropriate, so they blocked his application outright. They could say the sign is inappropriate, or whatever, but when liquor licenses are typically rubber-stamped by the city council, he wasn't being treated fairly.
Nowhere did I say that restrictions on liquor licenses is a bad idea; you're putting words into my mouth. I'm saying that everyone has a breaking point, and more and more people are being pushed to that breaking point recently.
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02-08-2008, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Diggler  ...what with the eminent domain rulings... | That definition is getting looser and looser, ain't it?
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02-08-2008, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Diggler A stroke of the pen from a small-****ed bureaucrat that wants to show 'power' can ruin your life in a heartbeat. | Like this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/08/...ing/index.html
These people are the edge as it is. Something like this was going to happen sooner or later. |
02-08-2008, 08:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO | | FYI, Here's where he posted the "Drunkenstein's" comment, it was actually on a forum thread: http://theshizz.org/forum/index.php?...pic=21634&st=0 Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nil Failstorm The place will officially be called The Haunted Castle. It's a simple name, very neutral, not overly gorey/scary. Plus, I'm pretty sure the city council wouldn't approve of Drunkenstein's; which will be the actual name above the bar. | The way I read the news article, the city council didn't exactly deny him anything. They voted 6-1 against his application, but that was just an advisory vote with no legal meaning. The liquor control board still hadn't made any decision on his application yet. But according to his forum posts, his business (a bar/restaurant catering to the death-metal crowd) has been open for several months using a temporary license. The news article also mentions briefly that his business was in financial trouble -- I wonder if that was the REAL reason for his planning a rampage.
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02-08-2008, 11:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | And why do some of you just roll over for this idiot's thinking and blame government? That makes no sense at all.
A mentally unstable guy could just as easily have found a reason in tea leaves, a rock song or the way his Alpha-Bits spoke to him in the morning.
Government isn't the problem - neither are students - neither are the co-workers of some of the idiots who go on rampages. Human beings break down sometimes. |
02-08-2008, 11:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana | | | government is always the problem. the more of it, the more of a problem it is.
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02-08-2008, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bradjonesbass government is always the problem. the more of it, the more of a problem it is. | ...a statement full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing.
(the Shakespeare referent comes to mind....)
Government is what stands between us and anarchy. The statement is untrue on its face. |
02-08-2008, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Government is what we place between us and anarchy. | Fixed it for you. The problem is when one or both parties forget this.
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02-08-2008, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim And why do some of you just roll over for this idiot's thinking and blame government? That makes no sense at all.
A mentally unstable guy could just as easily have found a reason in tea leaves, a rock song or the way his Alpha-Bits spoke to him in the morning.
Government isn't the problem - neither are students - neither are the co-workers of some of the idiots who go on rampages. Human beings break down sometimes. | Yep, people lose their stuff. I recently had to make myself stay in indiana and not drive to someones house far away to get some money on a bad internet deal.
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02-08-2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim And why do some of you just roll over for this idiot's thinking and blame government? That makes no sense at all.
A mentally unstable guy could just as easily have found a reason in tea leaves, a rock song or the way his Alpha-Bits spoke to him in the morning.
Government isn't the problem - neither are students - neither are the co-workers of some of the idiots who go on rampages. Human beings break down sometimes. | It's much easier and cleaner to blame everything on the gubmint: Shootings, subprime mortgages, etc. 
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02-08-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GregC It's much easier and cleaner to blame everything on the gubmint: Shootings, subprime mortgages, etc. | True. I now blame near-criminal abuse of eminent domain on the landowners.
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02-08-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mike_v_s True. I now blame near-criminal abuse of eminent domain on the landowners.
Mike | If I had said government is never to blame for anything, your sarcasm might have an impact.
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02-09-2008, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GregC If I had said government is never to blame for anything, your sarcasm might have an impact. | Sarcasm? Nah. I was just noticing aloud (in print) how much "easier and cleaner" it is to paint other's opinions on the "gubmint" with a broad brush.
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02-09-2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Government is what stands between us and anarchy. | As an anarchist, this statement does nothing whatsoever to faze me.
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02-09-2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bradjonesbass Crazy or not, when will our government realize people are fed up with their regulations, their oversight and their confiscatory taxation? | I funny what we all take from this story........You're concerned about regs and oversight and taxes.
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