Frustration with criminal investigation of attack on my family

Mike151 · #1 08-24-2009, 09:44 PM

Yesterday, my wife and daughter went over to my step daughters house to check on her. Nobody had heard from her all day and she wasn't answering her phone.
Long story short, my wife and daughter were assaulted by a 26 year old man in the appartment hallway.
We have since identified the man for the police department and the officer in charge says that we are "a while" away from an arrest warrant. I said, could you please define "a while" as it pertains to this conversation and he said "no".
My daughter has been in the hospital off and on for 24 hours and this cop wants to make sure he has a solid case before he asks for an arrest warrant. They must have some kind of arrest to conviction ratio that is looked at every paycheck or something. Anyway, I'm pretty deflated when it comes to justice tonight and this is actually a longer story but I just wanted to vent just a litte.
By the way, I am now a Bass Player who is for the first time exercising his 2nd amendment rights. It doesn't make me feel proud at all. I do feel safe now though.

Tama · #2 08-24-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

I am now a Bass Player who is for the first time exercising his 2nd amendment rights. It doesn't make me feel proud at all. I do feel safe now though.

Having Constitutional rights doesn't make you feel proud?

I'm not sure why an arrest isn't immediate.
If the victim can identify the criminal, swears to it...then I cant imagine why he isn't in cuffs as we speak.

There appears to be a crime committed and the victim has identified the criminal. Where I live, the criminal would be in jail right now.
Hope your Daughter is ok.
Dave

Mike151 · #3 08-24-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tama

I'm not sure why an arrest isn't immediate.
If the victim can identify the criminal, swears to it...then I cant imagine why he isn't in cuffs as we speak.

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

Mike151 · #4 08-24-2009, 10:03 PM

This is quite a fine hand gun. Nice craftsmanship. Is it ok to post that here? If not, I won't.

Tama · #5 08-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

Keep on em'
I hope all turns out well for you & yours.
Cheers, Dave

WookieeForLife · #6 08-24-2009, 10:04 PM

I can think of a few words to call that man who assaulted them, but I'm afraid I will be banned from TB. Sorry to hear it man.

Thunderscreech · #7 08-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

Well, the way things are anymore, if the guy gets a lawyer and goes after the officer/PD, because of a false or incomplete charge, than that doesn't make anyone happy.

5StringBlues · #8 08-24-2009, 10:05 PM

The police may be seeing if they can link this guy to other crimes.If they think they can,they know he will serve more time for multiple offenses than one or two assault charges.

Sorry your family is going thru this Mike.I hope they nail that sorry ************ to the wall..................

EDIT: I typed this before the further explanation.Hopefully the cop will get all his evidence right and they can put this creep where he belongs.

NJL · #9 08-24-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

so you just want a quick arrest and no conviction?

sorry what happened to your family, btw

LCW · #10 08-24-2009, 10:07 PM

law enforcements crap it really is. Look at the micheal jackson case the effort put into that was because its MJ they wouldnt have done that for a 6 year old that was killed.

I am 19 getting a degree in criminal justice and i really have no idea why because i dont want to be a cop i find the way they handle things wrong.

NJL · #11 08-24-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LCW

law enforcements crap it really is. Look at the micheal jackson case the effort put into that was because its MJ they wouldnt have done that for a 6 year old that was killed.

I am 19 getting a degree in criminal justice and i really have no idea why because i dont want to be a cop i find the way they handle things wrong.

what?

Mike151 · #12 08-24-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NJL

so you just want a quick arrest and no conviction?

Quick arrest? Uh... Yeah!
Does that mean no conviction? I really don't see how but it couldn't hurt to get the aeeeholee off the street.

Rudreax · #13 08-24-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

I don't really want to be "that guy"...but if the guy does get arrested but isn't convicted it's not going to solve anything. He'll just go right back to what he was doing before. The cop probably just wants to aim for getting the guy out of the area for good, and not just temporarily.

Of course, the cop could also just be a ****, but I'm not in your shoes so I can't really say. It really does seem weird that he didn't arrest him right on the spot.

Tama · #14 08-24-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LCW

law enforcements crap it really is. Look at the micheal jackson case the effort put into that was because its MJ they wouldnt have done that for a 6 year old that was killed.

I am 19 getting a degree in criminal justice and i really have no idea why because i dont want to be a cop i find the way they handle things wrong.

I can only speculate, but as the Police Officer said: he has to get all the evidence collected properly or the perp may walk.

I would give the Police a chance. To assume they are incompetent or don't care is wrong I think.

I agree with Thunderscreech

Mike151 · #15 08-24-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudreax

Of course, the cop could also just be a ****, but I'm not in your shoes so I can't really say.

Yeah, the cop was rude to me. I was quite calm and business like in my dress slacks and button up shirt, black shoes. My day job attire..... anyway, we didn't get 4 minutes into the conversation and I stopped and said, "I can't help but notice the tense tone of your voice. Can you help me understand why you appear to be aggrivated with this case?" I didn't notice but I think he pushed a little majic cop button cause one appeared out of a door and stood looming in the corder for the rest of the meeting.
I felt like the victim. It was like being castrated.

Mike151 · #16 08-24-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tama

I can only speculate, but as the Police Officer said: he has to get all the evidence collected properly or the perp may walk.
I would give the Police a chance. To assume they are incompetent or don't care is wrong I think.
I agree with Thunderscreech

I like the way you put that. Very nice. I am disappointed but will keep an open mind.

Tama · #17 08-24-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

I like the way you put that. Very nice. I am disappointed but will keep an open mind.

I wasn't there Mike.
I'd only say: keep on em about it.
Regardless, wish you well.
Cheers, Dave

hbarcat · #18 08-24-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike151

Well, in our 45 minute conversation, the officer explained to me that the defense attorney would rip his case apart and he needed time to make sure he gathered all of the evidence properly. So, I see that the cops concern is with his arrest/conviction ratio. Really depressing.

It seems to me as if he doesn't want to see a criminal go free because of hasty police work and he wants to make sure he has enough evidence to convict a suspect before he makes an arrest.

I know this is an emotional time for you, but how would you feel if the suspect was arrested and he was eventually acquitted on a technicality (even though it was obvious he was guilty) because the police didn't do their job of collecting evidence properly?

Or perhaps, an arrest was made without the proper evidence, and it turned out the wrong man was arrested - and the real criminal was ignored?

All the best to you and your family.

RedBastard · #19 08-24-2009, 10:51 PM

That's what you get for having faith in law enforcement in the first place.
I hope everyone is ok.

MakiSupaStar · #20 08-24-2009, 11:01 PM

You don't have to like this guy, but stay on him and remind him that he has a job to do.