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12-08-2007, 06:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland | | | Gah, this is a bit sickening
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Just saw this now.
In retaliation to the Teddy Bear called Mohammed ordeal/thing. Some people have decided to retaliate against that on a local level.
What did that guy have to do with any of it http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/ou...0638634t0.shtm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...al/7125588.stm
Things like this just end up cycling hatred, gah!
(Thought i would share this as its on more of a local level here, and possibly something most people wouldnt hear about)
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12-08-2007, 06:34 PM
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12-08-2007, 06:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas | | Wow. Vandalism is front page news now. Give me a break.
Someone ought to teach the Dundee police the difference between racism and religious bigotry. Not that one is any more excusable than the other.... | 
12-08-2007, 07:07 PM
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And its a difficult one to call, the guy could just have been from that place but not actually Muslim or whatnot. The vandals knew the guy was from that area (i dont know the term, want to say Indian, but i dont think thats it, but thats not the point), they didnt know of his religious beliefs whatever they were.
And racism tends to sound harsher than bigotry im assuming by the way the papers seem to use it?
Not really the point tho.
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12-08-2007, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk And its a difficult one to call, the guy could just have been from that place but not actually Muslim or whatnot. The vandals knew the guy was from that area (i dont know the term, want to say Indian, but i dont think thats it, but thats not the point), they didnt know of his religious beliefs whatever they were. | His name is Mohammad, that's why he was targetted. Having that name pretty much means you are a Muslim.... | 
12-08-2007, 07:18 PM
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Again, thats hardly the point of this thread, its just to show the idiocy of some people, which will just spiral problems.
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12-09-2007, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by middy His name is Mohammad, that's why he was targetted. Having that name pretty much means you are a Muslim.... | Often, sure. But not necessarily.
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12-09-2007, 04:01 AM
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12-09-2007, 09:44 AM
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12-09-2007, 12:20 PM
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12-09-2007, 12:28 PM
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12-09-2007, 05:17 PM
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12-09-2007, 07:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Anaheim, Ca. | | | I tend to blame the woman more than the idiots who did the vandalism. She really did tempt fate by taking a job in a Muslim country. You couldn't pay me enough money to ever do what she did... That whole situation was 100% avoidable. | 
12-10-2007, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rattman I tend to blame the woman more than the idiots who did the vandalism. She really did tempt fate by taking a job in a Muslim country. You couldn't pay me enough money to ever do what she did... That whole situation was 100% avoidable. | As avoidable as it is.
It was named after a boy in the class, and was it not named more by the class than her in particular per-say?
I know i could have made that mistake.
Would have been slightly miffed to say the least at the whole thing because its a law that is full of contradictions. And i still fail to see why it is ok for people to be named as such, yet not inanimate objects, when they seem to claim calling anything by that name is disrespectful?
I cant blame the woman at all for this, the teddy bear thing was nothing more than an excuse for the attack, if it wasnt that, they would have found something else. In no way was that man responsible for any of the happenings over wherever it all kicked off.
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12-10-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bard2dbone Often, sure. But not necessarily. | Really? Give me one example contrariwise. | 
12-10-2007, 12:07 PM
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Maybe his parents were Muslim and he is a firm Atheist?
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12-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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12-10-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rattman I tend to blame the woman more than the idiots who did the vandalism. She really did tempt fate by taking a job in a Muslim country. You couldn't pay me enough money to ever do what she did... That whole situation was 100% avoidable. | Ewwwww. 
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12-10-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by funkalicious101 She was really just tempting fate. She could have been smart (or even respectful) enough to not go against one of a religion's values. | Yeah! How dare a roomful of 2nd graders name a teddy bear! 
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12-10-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk Since when does your name dictate your religion?
Maybe his parents were Muslim and he is a firm Atheist? | + 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
my old man's name happens to be just that, and I'll be damned if he's muslim.
eastern? yes. muslim? no.
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