Gay Gene

[SpectorBass308]

This is interesting, I don't know how science goes about proving or disproving these kinds of things but it looks pretty compelling. I was forwarded a link to this article in my email and thought I would share it with you all. Apparently it comes from a Christian news website. With religion and politics aside here's what it says;

"The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" -- meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are born that way.



For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

Peter LaBarberaPeter LaBarbera, who heads Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, believes the more recent statement is an important admission because it undermines a popular theory.

"People need to understand that the 'gay gene' theory has been one of the biggest propaganda boons of the homosexual movement over the last 10 [or] 15 years," he points out. "Studies show that if people think that people are born homosexual they're much less likely to resist the gay agenda."

Matt Barber with Liberty Counsel feels the pronouncement may have something to do with saving face. "Well, I think here the American Psychological Association is finally trying to restore some credibility that they've lost over the years by having become a clearly political organization as opposed to an objective, scientific organization," he states. (Hear audio report)

With the new information from the APA, Barber wonders if the organization will admit that homosexuals who want to change can change."


Taken from: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/De...aspx?id=528376

[iamlowsound]

Interesting. I have never believed in the "gay gene", mainly because there wasn't really any evidence for it, right from the start.

lowsound

[CrispyDelicious]

Hah! "...the homosexual movement..." Yes, watch out everyone, they're trying to take over...

I always wonder how many of these people actually have experience watching someone from birth grow up who turns out to be homosexual. I know it's anecdotal, but I've grown up with a few people who "turned out" gay, one of them a family member, and believe me, you can tell from a very, very young age.

EDIT: Of course, I should mention that they were all raised to be "straight".

[megadan]

Why would they consider it a problem or disorder?

I'd call it a preference made more prevalent by the social and technological advances of the 20th and 21st centuries.

[MatticusMania]

I have some gay jeans. Theyre absolutely fab-you-lous!

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

...and believe me, you can tell from a very, very young age.

Or maybe it was the stigma of everyone saying, from a very, very young age, that he was gay that made him gay?

[CrispyDelicious]

No, even before I knew what homosexuality was, I could tell these people were not "right" according to the standards put forth by society. In the case of my family member, I was the one who brought it up with my parents, and their response was "you noticed too, huh?" It was never discussed openly until a couple years ago.

[Jim Nazium]

I was in a band with a guy called Gay Gene.

[two fingers]

Originally Posted by SpectorBass308

With religion and politics aside here's what it says;

You just opened a discussion about a gay gene with this quote???? Priceless.

[Jared Lash]

Ann Coulter also disproved evolution in her book.

Science needs to stop trying to dictate how people live their lives and what to believe in.

[two fingers]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

I have some gay jeans. Theyre absolutely fab-you-lous!

Even more priceless!

[L-A]

I think there's a misunderstanding between sexual orientation and mental gender in this thread. Feminine men are those you're talking about when it's a matter of ringing the gaydar. I'll make a blind guess at saying there's a higher proportion of these among homosexual men, but one does not imply the other.

A gay friend of mine said, "I want to date a man, not a sissy".

I'm also under the impression that straight, effeminate men tend to date unassuming lesbians.

[CrispyDelicious]

Now that I think of it, the first time I realized my family member was gay, it was when he started coreographing dance numbers to the musical "Newsies".

[wabbit]

Wasn't there a guy on the Gong Show awhile back named Gene Gene, the Gay Dancing Machine? He'd usually come on before the Unknown Sexual Orientation Comic.

[doctorjazz]

Honestly, gender identity is kind of a spectrum and not really something that can be separated into a black and white, gay and straight kind of thing. If you look in nature, even the concept of gender itself is pretty fluid for an awful lot of organisms.

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by L-A

I'm also under the impression that straight, effeminate men tend to date unassuming lesbians.

Bi's will be Bi's...

[knumbskull]

i thought this thread was going to be about Kiss

back on topic, once you start talking about the possibility of 'changing' homosexual people you're on thin ice, IMHO.

apart from that, it's just the whole done-to-death nature/nurture debate all over again, isn't it?

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Now that I think of it, the first time I realized my family member was gay, it was when he started coreographing dance numbers to the musical "Newsies".

No, Christian Bale is just so damn sexy he brings the gay out of anyone.

[L-A]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

Bi's will be Bi's...

I only hear the concept of bisexuality from self-proclaimed bisexuals.

Do they say "You're either gay, straight, or a liar" around your place? I hear it all the time.

[MatticusMania]

Ha, Ive never heard it put that way before, but there are people on both sides of the fence who will proclaim bisexuality as latent homosexuality. Being bi myself, with a bisexual girlfriend, I have to say I disagree.