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04-17-2008, 04:00 PM
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I have to find some support to go with my opinion on global warming for my science class. I was wondering if any knew any good places to support the theory of global warming that i can use as sources?
P.S. This is not meant to cause a political debat and I am sorry if it does.
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04-17-2008, 04:04 PM
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Anyway, Jamaica is a good place. In the past 3 years, they've had 2 hurricanes, and the last one before that was 10 years ago.
I just wrote an essay on Global Warming yesterday for my exam. |
04-17-2008, 04:04 PM
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Thats about as straightforward of a response as you're going to get.
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04-17-2008, 04:05 PM
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04-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Wilson
Anyway, Jamaica is a good place. In the past 3 years, they've had 2 hurricanes, and the last one before that was 10 years ago.
| that would actually be pretty good ty... more stuff is still welcom
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Originally Posted by Matt Till Coldplay makes me want to commit acts of violence and suffering. | |
04-17-2008, 04:17 PM
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Now, if the ice caps melt? We're screwed. |
04-17-2008, 04:28 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Park, MI | | Here's a good alternative point of view. For the record the trend now is cooling. And last year broke all records for cooling. As far as us "being screwed" with melting. Humanity and the planet somehow survived in the 1300's when Greenland was ice free and many of todays glaciers had receded to the point where they didn't even show up on maps. In Ishpeming they shoveled 24" of Global Warming just last week.  http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-...al-warming.htm
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04-17-2008, 04:37 PM
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04-17-2008, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric618 | That is, singularly, one of the most amazing leaps of "logic" I've seen around here in a whi... oh wait... It's a global warming thread.
Carry on! 
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04-17-2008, 04:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, TX | | | okay i know the last two posts are just jokes but i don't want this to turn into any debate thread and get closed O_o
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04-17-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesemonkey okay i know the last two posts are just jokes but i don't want this to turn into any debate thread and get closed O_o | Mine wasn't a joke. But, for the sake of your thread, I'll delete my post. Sorry dude. 
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04-17-2008, 04:51 PM
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hahahah
joking.
I believe in it. I hope that's not a real website.
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04-17-2008, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric618 Mine wasn't a joke. But, for the sake of your thread, I'll delete my post. Sorry dude. | thanks. I'm just a little grumpy because i got put on bass ban everyday when i get home until i have nothing else to do... its a real pain...
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04-17-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesemonkey thanks. I'm just a little grumpy because i got put on bass ban everyday when i get home until i have nothing else to do... its a real pain... | Not a problem
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04-17-2008, 05:13 PM
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04-17-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OctoberMooN That is, singularly, one of the most amazing leaps of "logic" I've seen around here in a whi... oh wait... It's a global warming thread.
Carry on! | +1 A Global Warming thread should be considered a political thread because it's split DIRECTLY down party lines  The ones that believe in it and the normal people of the world  
I'm all for being green and kind to the planet but drop the "Global Warming concept" as a political tool!!
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04-17-2008, 05:38 PM
| | | For the record, I am in upstate New York right now on Lake Champlain, and there are flood alerts for the next week because of the massive amount of snow up here in the Adirondacks which is now melting as a result of Spring finally arriving. Lake Champlain is higher than I have ever seen it (due to the snow melting from a longer than normal winter, and a higher amount of snowfall than normal).
I think it also snowed in Iraq, and parts of China that haven't seen snow in decades.
There was more snow in the northern hemisphere this winter than there has been in a long time.
Parts of antarctic ice sheet is getting THICKER
Video of polar bears clamboring onto ice chunks was taken in the Summer.
Robots probing the ocean have not detected any increase in sea temps for the last several years.
Scientists that have analyzed the CO2 / Temp rise graphs are actually now saying that higher temps cause a rise in CO2, not the other way around. The sun, el nino, other "non-CO2 reasons" seem to be blamed for higher temps (increased activity in sun spots, etc.).
CO2 is only .04% of the earths atmosphere, but contributes roughly 3% of the greenhouse effect. Water contributes 95% of the greenhouse effect. CO2 from man contributes .117% of the greenhouse effect. Even if we actually reduced our CO2 emissions by 30% as per the Kyoto Protocol, the net effect would not even be noticed, as it would be within the normal seasonal fluctuations of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Sorry I am not fitting the "global frauding" narrative here, but I just thought I would pass this information on.
BTW: "A Certain Global Warming Advocate" could go a long way in selling 5 of his 10,000 square foot homes, stop flying on a fuel inefficient private jet, and stop leasing his land to Occidental Petroleum for Zinc mining, which is polluting the river that runs past his house: http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/...0067_GORE1.jpg
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04-17-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadowsky_Nut For the record, I am in upstate New York right now on Lake Champlain, and there are flood alerts for the next week because of the massive amount of snow up here in the Adirondacks which is now melting as a result of Spring finally arriving. Lake Champlain is higher than I have ever seen it (due to the snow melting from a longer than normal winter, and a higher amount of snowfall than normal).
I think it also snowed in Iraq, and parts of China that haven't seen snow in decades.
There was more snow in the northern hemisphere this winter than there has been in a long time.
Parts of antarctic ice sheet is getting THICKER
Video of polar bears clamboring onto ice chunks was taken in the Summer.
Robots probing the ocean have not detected any increase in sea temps for the last several years.
Scientists that have analyzed the CO2 / Temp rise graphs are actually now saying that higher temps cause a rise in CO2, not the other way around. The sun, el nino, other "non-CO2 reasons" seem to be blamed for higher temps (increased activity in sun spots, etc.).
CO2 is only .04% of the earths atmosphere, but contributes roughly 3% of the greenhouse effect. Water contributes 95% of the greenhouse effect. CO2 from man contributes .117% of the greenhouse effect. Even if we actually reduced our CO2 emissions by 30% as per the Kyoto Protocol, the net effect would not even be noticed, as it would be within the normal seasonal fluctuations of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Sorry I am not fitting the "global frauding" narrative here, but I just thought I would pass this information on.
BTW: "A Certain Global Warming Advocate" could go a long way in selling 5 of his 10,000 square foot homes, stop flying on a fuel inefficient private jet, and stop leasing his land to Occidental Petroleum for Zinc mining, which is polluting the river that runs past his house: http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/...0067_GORE1.jpg |
VERY good points, especially the last one |
04-17-2008, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesemonkey I have to find some support to go with my opinion on global warming for my science class. I was wondering if any knew any good places to support the theory of global warming that i can use as sources?
P.S. This is not meant to cause a political debat and I am sorry if it does. | Just curious...if you took the point of view that global warming cannot be scientifically proven, as there is no way to prospectively (going forward) prove the hypothesis that man made emission of CO2 causes increase in surface temperatures, with reproducible results, and with an experimental control, what kind of grade would you get?
If you are looking for clues, you would need:
One earth with humans (we already have that)
One earth without humans - your experimental control (tough one)
The same solar conditions for the next 100 years
The same CO2 emissions for the next 100 years
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As you see, it is impossible to prospectively prove the hypothesis that CO2 produced by man causes global warming. |
04-17-2008, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cheesemonkey I have to find some support to go with my opinion on global warming for my science class. I was wondering if any knew any good places to support the theory of global warming that i can use as sources? | Geez, have you done ANY internet searches? There is more well-researched, authoritative info out there than you can possibly use. Just Google search for "research on global warming" and your question is answered.
And if those who protest will take the trouble to read some of the very solid research being done, I believe they will change their opinion.
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