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11-23-2009, 11:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ky | | | Gruden the new Madden?
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After the success that Jon Gruden has achieved in the broadcast booth in such a short period of time (Monday night football is getting great ratings & JG has been signed to a lucrative extension), is Gruden the new John Madden?
There are similarities: both coaches had short head coaching careers; both coaches won Super bowl trophies; both coached for Al Davis; both add an 'everyman' enthusiasm to their color commentary that seems to go over well w/ football watching public- and both seem to thrive in the TV arena w/ seemingly no desire to return to coaching...
All thats left is for Gruden to get his face plastered across the packaging for a video game 
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11-23-2009, 11:12 AM
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11-23-2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jared Lash  I'm reserving judgement until I see his RV and weird Thanksgiving foods. Turducken anyone? | I forgot about that- he needs a good Thanksgiving mvp award... I think he is cool w/ flying unlike JM- maybe a custom Jet?? |
11-23-2009, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hamrhed I forgot about that- he needs a good Thanksgiving mvp award... I think he is cool w/ flying unlike JM- maybe a custom Jet?? | He won't need a Thanksgiving MVP award until we move Thanksgiving to Monday.........
He also needs to be better at what he does. Totally unimpressive so far.
"See here Jaws, this is a football player that knows tendencies and how to make plays!"
Really?
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11-23-2009, 11:47 AM
|  | *******er Emeritus(does anyone remember that? No?) | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Houston, Texas | | | I didn't think I'd ever miss John Madden's broadcasting when he retired - but now that Chris Collinsworth is his replacement.....I kind of miss John Madden. Collinsworth is a douchenozzle.
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11-23-2009, 12:14 PM
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I would LOVE for Tom Jackson or Cris Carter to do color for a couple games. The current pregame show lineup (minus Boomer) is the best they've had in years.
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11-23-2009, 12:15 PM
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11-23-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fo shizzle He won't need a Thanksgiving MVP award until we move Thanksgiving to Monday... | True- although w/ having three games on Thanksgiving now Im sure we will see him at some point... Quote: He also needs to be better at what he does. Totally unimpressive so far.
"See here Jaws, this is a football player that knows tendencies and how to make plays!"
Really? | Well, I think thats at least a little unfair: he is obviously doing his homework on players, has made good commentary with regards to offensive & defensive schemes and tendencies... I think his passion for the game & exuberant talk is what directly correlates to the Madden comparison. To say that Madden was much more elaborate than your 'example' is a little extreme imo
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11-23-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by john turner if anyone's going to take madden's place he has to be down with the screen pen doodles. | True. I don't think I've seen anyone cirle the sweat stains on a lineman's ass all year.
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11-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ground Pounder Can't stand Chris Collinsworth. JG is okay, but nothing special.
I would LOVE for Tom Jackson or Cris Carter to do color for a couple games. The current pregame show lineup (minus Boomer) is the best they've had in years. | I like Carter, but Keyshawn not so much... the commercial they did for his 'Key' matchups (matching pocket hanky & socks) didnt seem to far fetched for him imo  |
11-23-2009, 01:33 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | I found Madden to be rather shrill; his voice got tiring to me. I'm much more of a Keith Jackson (a WSU Cougar) style guy. Collinsworth has a nice touch, and I like his broadcasts. Gruden brings a nice level of enthusiasm to the broadcast.
God help us all, they MIGHT have kept Dennis Miller or that idiot Tony Kornheiser. They kept me from watching about half the games - they were the WORST things to ever happen to the broadcast.
What this nation really needs is Dandy Don back in the booth singing 'Turn Out The Lights"!
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11-23-2009, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim I found Madden to be rather shrill; his voice got tiring to me. I'm much more of a Keith Jackson (a WSU Cougar) style guy. Collinsworth has a nice touch, and I like his broadcasts. Gruden brings a nice level of enthusiasm to the broadcast.
God help us all, they MIGHT have kept Dennis Miller or that idiot Tony Kornheiser. They kept me from watching about half the games - they were the WORST things to ever happen to the broadcast.
What this nation really needs is Dandy Don back in the booth singing 'Turn Out The Lights"! | I liked Madden alright- but I agree with the rest: Ive always appreciated Jackson, and another fave would be Enberg. Collinsworth doesnt bother me the way he does some... but man theres no missing Miller or Kornheiser. They are alright at other things but what were MNF brass thinking there  |
11-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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11-23-2009, 01:41 PM
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11-23-2009, 01:44 PM
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11-23-2009, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PSPookie True. I don't think I've seen anyone cirle the sweet stains on a lineman's ass all year. | I think you misspelled one of those words. I fixed it to reflect your true intent, perv.
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11-23-2009, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jrthebassguy ^I'm beginning to think I'm the only guy who liked Kornheiser as a broadcaster. Oh well, I still watch PTI. | I like Kornheiser and PTI as well... just didnt seem a good fit for MNF imo |
11-23-2009, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamrhed True- although w/ having three games on Thanksgiving now Im sure we will see him at some point...
Well, I think thats at least a little unfair: he is obviously doing his homework on players, has made good commentary with regards to offensive & defensive schemes and tendencies... I think his passion for the game & exuberant talk is what directly correlates to the Madden comparison. To say that Madden was much more elaborate than your 'example' is a little extreme imo | Maybe that was a slight reduction of the man's work!! 
My announcer "kryptonite" is the overuse of the cliche' and saying the word "football" over and over again.
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11-23-2009, 04:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Yeah, I noticed that Gruden may have an extra cup of coffee before each game...he seems to be on fast forward. But so far, I like it.
I find Kornheiser OK on radio, but I thought he was horrendously out of place on TV, and overly negative in his comments.
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11-23-2009, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fo shizzle My announcer "kryptonite" is the overuse of the cliche' and saying the word "football" over and over again. | Yes, he does like to tell people how each subject "is a football player!" | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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