Haiti Adoptions

[J. Crawford]

My family has been looking into adopting a child from Haiti, but there is only one problem. The $20,000 price tag.

IMO, thats incredible.. For so many reasons many of us can think of without me typing.

Im just flabbergasted.

[WookieeForLife]

People in my area did this.

[kesslari]

Something is very, very wrong with this...

[J. Crawford]

We are as serious about it as possible, but thats a LOT of money for your average American family.

[Sherwood]

What's a reasonable price for a human being, then?

[Tommygunn]

If you can do it than good on you guys and you deserve a lot of mojo but if you can't it's nothing wrong. Don't let sherwood get to you, many people can't afford it

[J. Crawford]

Originally Posted by Sherwood

What's a reasonable price for a human being, then?

The money isnt going towards the human being. I honestly dont know where the money would be going.

If youre trying to stir a fight in a thread about adopting a Haitian child, shame on you.

[Tommygunn]

Once again jordan, no offence, but your avatar just doesn't fit in with some threads

[Tommygunn]

Originally Posted by J. Crawford

The money isnt going towards the human being. I honestly dont know where the money would be going.

If youre trying to stir a fight in a thread about adopting a Haitian child, shame on you.

+ like 100000000000000000

[electracoyote]

Gee, there are a lot of unwanted children right here on your native soil that could use a good home too. Why do the needs of a Haitian child exceed those of an American child?

[J. Crawford]

Welp, this thread went down hill quick.

[monzamess]

Originally Posted by electracoyote

Gee, there are a lot of unwanted children right here on your native soil that could use a good home too. Why do the needs of a Haitian child exceed those of an American child?

Well, for one thing, "unwanted" children here are growing up in a 1st-world nation and all the benefits that provides, even to orphans.

To address your first point, most of the available children here have special needs that many people are just not up to handling, ranging from 24-hour special care to behavioral problems where the listing (yes, I've been looking) says the child is not suitable for homes that already have children. On the other hand, many couples can handle raising healthy, average children, even if they're from another country. There is also the impression that the birthparents or relatives can take the children back from adoptive parents; this is not the case in a finalized adoption, but it's an issue with fostering to adopt, and many adoptions in this country start with fostering.

[electracoyote]

Originally Posted by monzamess

Well, for one thing, "unwanted" children here are growing up in a 1st-world nation and all the benefits that provides, even to orphans.

To address your first point, most of the available children here have special needs that many people are just not up to handling, ranging from 24-hour special care to behavioral problems where the listing (yes, I've been looking) says the child is not suitable for homes that already have children. On the other hand, many couples can handle raising healthy, average children, even if they're from another country. There is also the impression that the birthparents or relatives can take the children back from adoptive parents; this is not the case in a finalized adoption, but it's an issue with fostering to adopt, and many adoptions in this country start with fostering.

So, we've made it so difficult to adopt in this country, and the candidate children for adoption are so unfit, that we actually encourage people to adopt foreign children?

Is this true?

[Tommygunn]

Originally Posted by J. Crawford

Welp, this thread went down hill quick.

I am sorry for what happened, to be honest I have to say this thread has been taken to point way past where my threads have gone. Not your fault, but the ahole tb'ers who can't say anything nice about the great thing you are trying to do.

this is one positive post that I could get banned for, and quite honestly I'd love to get banned over defending you and what you are doing rather than something stupid (though not asking for a ban )

[J. Crawford]

Thanks for the backup, monzamess. This is exactly why I usually stray away from OT here on TB.

Sorry for the post guys, move on.

[monzamess]

Originally Posted by electracoyote

So, we've made it so difficult to adopt in this country, and the candidate children for adoption are so unfit, that we actually encourage people to adopt foreign children?

Is this true?

Not 100%--there are waiting children in the US whose only drawbacks are age or being in a sibling group, but yes, in many cases it's much easier--and with much less waiting and being jerked around--to adopt from a foreign country. This situation encourages people to adopt internationally whether or not the act is actively encouraged by anyone. And in all cases, adoption is going to run from $10k to $30k. Even if the adoption fees are waived for special needs kids, as they often are, there is still a couple thousand for the home study and other fees (there are several types of fees in the adoption process).

[Tommygunn]

Originally Posted by J. Crawford

Thanks for the backup, monzamess. This is exactly why I usually stray away from OT here on TB.

Sorry for the post guys, move on.

Yeah, a lot of ****** hang out here, but some nice ppl do too...


Hey! I get no applause!?

[monzamess]

To address the original post: The cost of an adoption does often seem ridiculous. Many agencies rely on these fees to pay rent, house and feed the kids, and pay employees. Honorable organizations aren't making profits in this process. Dishonorable people and organizations may, but they are the exception and you will find them in all walks of life. I don't think $20K is out of line with the fees of other countries--a little high but not the highest at all.

[A-Step-Towards]

you should not have to pay to adopt if anything you should recieve free medical , dental and other bonuses. It costs an average american 250,000$ to just raise a kid to 18 , throw on another 50,000$ for college. And they have the guts to demand 20,000$?


whats wrong with society? if anything the people who give kids up for adoption in america should have to pay fines for that child or for there college, somethings wrong with adoption programs its just straight dumb for lack of a better term.

[J. Crawford]

Tommy, being recognized for doing good is not always part of the deal.

Im not saying that its too much money, I had a general knowledge of what the money goes to, but it just struck me that these kids need help, yet most families cant solely because of finances.