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12-04-2007, 02:26 PM
|  | A Hard Rockin Lover of GREENBURST Moderator | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Where I lay my head is home | |  Have you ever met someone who hated their own race ?
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Have you ever met someone who hated their own race ? I have once and it was one of the most bizare expirences I have ever had.
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12-04-2007, 02:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bos, MA | | | yes. it's weird.
but i kinda view race as i do religion - i don't.
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Originally Posted by D.M.N.  that was like having a gorilla attempt to shove haggis down my ear canal. | |
12-04-2007, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels | | | well, i saw this programm about neonazis in israel, kinda hard to believe. it's not rally about race but similar. |
12-04-2007, 02:30 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | | Yeah. She was a drop dead Filipina chick. I couldn't hang with her for very long. She had other problems too. |
12-04-2007, 02:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL | | Just look at any number of the posts here on TB and you'll see it. 
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Originally Posted by jady Dude, this is off topic, no one in here actually plays bass |
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12-04-2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by OctoberMooN here
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12-04-2007, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL | | | Is that more clear?
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Originally Posted by jady Dude, this is off topic, no one in here actually plays bass | |
12-04-2007, 02:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Side SA | | | where? |
12-04-2007, 02:48 PM
| | | | Yes, I have. Don't worry guys, no rants or anything like that.
It's actually a problem in the Asian American (AA) community. Blacks and Hispanics generally have their own "subculture" within the larger "American" (mainstream) culture. Asian Americans don't really have a distinct "Asian American" culture. I have read that AAs almost mirror Whites in their buying and entertainment habits. Add that to an already small population (nationally about 5 percent) of AAs, and you have no market niche.
How does this factor into self-hatred? Because many AA kids grow up without a strong cultural influence, it leads to some confusion and identity problems. I'll use myself as an example:
When I was in elementary school and middle school, I HATED being of Asian decent. I thought, "why was I born Asian?! If I weren't Asian, I wouldn't have kids making karate noises, calling me slurs, pulling their eyes back to mock me...". I hated the fact that I was so "different" from the other kids. I hated the fact that my hair was dark and my eyes were slanted and brown. I hated that I wasn't like my friends. In middle school I would laugh at racist jokes about Asians and even make them myself; by doing this I thought I could somehow fit in. All it did was make me a loser. Big time.
Eventually as I got older I did some research into my heritage, talked to some people who were in the same proverbial boat, and realized that I should be proud of who and what I am.
Unfortunately, some people never get to that point (though I would say the majority probably do) and carry some serious emotional baggage throughout adulthood. Maki made mention of a Filipina woman he knew; it seems that Asian American self-hate hits more women than man; I'm not sure why--it could just be the difference in the way men and women handle and perceive things. But I have met many Asian American girls who vehemently refuse to date Asian American guys, and have a "white is right" mentality. They give stereotypical reasons like "oh they're too short", "they're ALL nerds", "they have small penises" etc (even though they've never dated one before). But these excuses are just that: excuses used to justify their auto-racism and insecurities. When people with self-racism see other people of their race, they see a reflection of themselves, and everything they hate about themselves. I used to get angry when I heard about these girls, but now I just feel bad for them. I will also add that despite my threads I've made about Asian men having less luck with women, almost all of the few girls I've been with have been White; I've only been with one Asian girl.
And that's really all I have about that. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to add that might derail this thread.
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12-04-2007, 02:49 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | I have met black people before who have been incredibly derogatory of their own race. It's certainly an odd experience, listening to them insulting people of their own colour. |
12-04-2007, 02:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harpers Ferry WV | | | I have a Filipino friend that ALWAYS makes wise cracks about his race, to the point it gets a bit uncomfortable. |
12-04-2007, 02:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL | | | So, when does self-deprecation become self-loathing?
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12-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OctoberMooN So, when does self-deprecation become self-loathing? | It's a fine line; I do make Asian jokes sometimes, but usually in a satirical and ironic way to show the ridiculousness of stereotypes and racism. When people actually start seriously bashing people of their own race and feeling ashamed and inferior, maybe saying things like "I wish I wasnt _____", then there's a problem. |
12-04-2007, 03:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western PA | | | White guilt seems to be the 'in' thing these days. God help you if you're male, too.
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12-04-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggler White guilt seems to be the 'in' thing these days. God help you if you're male, too. | Should I be ashamed to be a white male?  |
12-04-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggler White guilt seems to be the liberal "in" thing these days. God help you if you're male, too. | Fixed.
I've also met a few Mexicans that can't stand other Mexicans. |
12-04-2007, 03:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL | | | My girlfriend is Puerto-Rican and she is embarrassed and ashamed of many people in her culture (due to their behavior)
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12-04-2007, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Armueller2001 My girlfriend is Puerto-Rican and she is embarrassed and ashamed of many people in her culture (due to their behavior) | What do they do to make her embarrassed? |
12-04-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 What do they do to make her embarrassed? | Spend ridiculous amounts of money upgrading their cars while they're struggling on welfare... don't get an education and work in crap jobs for their entire lives... look DOWN on people who actually do get an education... sell drugs, be gangbangers, etc.
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12-04-2007, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Armueller2001 Spend ridiculous amounts of money upgrading their cars while they're struggling on welfare... don't get an education and work in crap jobs for their entire lives... look DOWN on people who actually do get an education... sell drugs, be gangbangers, etc. | that happens in every race..
i know i have seen my fair share of meskins, italians and anglos do the same.. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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