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07-07-2009, 05:42 AM
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I just saw the movie The boy in the srtiped Pajamas, and after listening to slayer's Angel of Death and reading more about it i got really into learning more about what happened, sadly i regret some of it, there are a lot of stories that talk about solidarity and courage and stuff like that but there are many others that are heart breaking..
Anyway the point of this thread is, is there any chance of something like the holocaust happen again this day and age?
Discuss..
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07-07-2009, 05:48 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maine/Vermont | | | Depends on what you mean by "something like the holocaust."
If you're talking about an organized, massive-scale ethnic cleansing, probably not.
If you're talking about a whole lot of people dying in a very short amount of time, probably. |
07-07-2009, 05:49 AM
| | | | yeah, i mean some sort of ethnic cleansing..
about the second thing you said, what could happen?
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07-07-2009, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by makanudo  I just saw the movie The boy in the srtiped Pajamas, and after listening to slayer's Angel of Death and reading more about it i got really into learning more about what happened, sadly i regret some of it, there are a lot of stories that talk about solidarity and courage and stuff like that but there are many others that are heart breaking..
Anyway the point of this thread is, is there any chance of something like the holocaust happen again this day and age?
Discuss.. | Similar things have happened, but perhaps not on the same scale:
1. Ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
2. The Khmer Rouge's killings in Cambodia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Fields
3. Rwandan Genocide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide
4. Darfur (Sudan) at the moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_...tality_figures
So yeah, there's a chance it could happen again.
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07-07-2009, 05:53 AM
| | | | wow, cant the united nations stop it or sumtin?
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07-07-2009, 05:56 AM
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07-07-2009, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound | now thats hilarious, sad, and true.. wow man this world is so F'ed up
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07-07-2009, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Deluge Of Sound | the un can only do what its members want to do. the organisation itself doesn't have any power. if you don't like the un go complain to the members, notably the us, russia and china. it's those three that block any real decision or action.
to the op, i doubt that organised murder on a scale like the holocaust will take place again. i don't think that the examples mark gave are comparable. stuff like that will happen again and again unfortunatley.
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07-07-2009, 06:19 AM
| | | | Israel is well on their way IMO
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07-07-2009, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Absentia Israel is well on their way IMO | Whilst we can't discuss the details, suffice to say that, IMO, that is a very ignorant comment which could only be made by someone who doesn't really know much about the actual situation in the area or is so biased they simply don't care.
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07-07-2009, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour Whilst we can't discuss the details, suffice to say that, IMO, that is a very ignorant comment which could only be made by someone who doesn't really know much about the actual situation in the area or is so biased they simply don't care. | What Mark said. |
07-07-2009, 06:43 AM
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07-07-2009, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Absentia Israel is well on their way IMO | In fact - it is Iran's president who has said that he wants to wipe Israel off the map - and given Iran's potential nuclear capability it is more likely the other way round... 
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07-07-2009, 06:59 AM
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07-07-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour Whilst we can't discuss the details, suffice to say that, IMO, that is a very ignorant comment which could only be made by someone who doesn't really know much about the actual situation in the area or is so biased they simply don't care. | 
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07-07-2009, 08:09 AM
| | | It will happen again. The scale and systematic killing of the Holocaust is not an isolated incident. Hell it wasn't even an isolated incident for the time period... http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM |
07-07-2009, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by makanudo I just saw the movie The boy in the srtiped Pajamas, and after listening to slayer's Angel of Death and reading more about it i got really into learning more about what happened, sadly i regret some of it, there are a lot of stories that talk about solidarity and courage and stuff like that but there are many others that are heart breaking..
Anyway the point of this thread is, is there any chance of something like the holocaust happen again this day and age?
Discuss.. | I'd rather discuss this part... 
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07-07-2009, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Papazita I'd rather discuss this part... | I think he's clearly saying he regrets learning about some of the things, not that he regrets some of the holocaust.
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07-07-2009, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour I think he's clearly saying he regrets learning about some of the things, not that he regrets some of the holocaust. | Never regret learning. Anything.
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07-07-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Papazita Never regret learning. Anything. | That's all well and good, but I can certainly imagine situations where a young person may "regret" leanring (in the sense that it makes him feel bad) about some of the more graphic details of things that went on during the holocaust like Mengele's experiments on young Jewish men etc. Whilst I do think its important that we preserve these tales so that the horrors are not diminished, its not always something that a young person needs to know the detail of until they are ready. Its not as black and white as you make it out to be.
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