Homeland? - Page 9

nickbass79 · #**161** 12-18-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

I think Brody can still be involved. It's possible that he was playing Carrie for protection, because he knew that if he was close to her, that the CIA might back off of him. He knew she set him up with an id and passport, and he'll use it to return to Nazir's camp.

I agree. Brody has proven that he isn't stupid and can be quite manipulative...especially when it comes to Cuckoo Carrie. All in all it was a good season finale.

buzzbass · #**162** 12-18-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by colcifer

I don't think this is the case but it occurs to me that Quinn could have been behind the bomb. Highly doubtful but an interesting thought.

I'm thinking this too. After all, he "kills bad guys", doesn't he ? He already threatened Estes once, so........

buzzbass · #**163** 12-18-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nickbass79

I agree. Brody has proven that he isn't stupid and can be quite manipulative...especially when it comes to Cuckoo Carrie. All in all it was a good season finale.

My other theory is that it was Brody after all. Why else would he go meet up with his buddy to encourage him to get back with his (Brody"s) wife & kids. Seemed like a last goodbye to me, no ?

nickbass79 · #**164** 12-18-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzbass

I'm thinking this too. After all, he "kills bad guys", doesn't he ? He already threatened Estes once, so........

Quinn "kills bad guys" not mass murders innocents along with them. Doesn't seem like the style he has portrayed... you know the super spook clandestine agent that stays in the shadows and is more surgical.

Not sure about Dar Adul though.

buzzbass · #**165** 12-18-2012, 02:02 PM

I have a couple of ideas floating around in my empty head. That was just one of them.

Downunderwonder · #**166** 12-18-2012, 03:52 PM

Some beardos did a valet job on Brody's truck at one stage, left out his jack. The plot thickens.

We only have Brody's word for it that his truck was moved but he is a silky smooth liar.

Bad writing re the invisible 1000lb bomb seems more likely.

buzzbass · #**167** 12-21-2012, 04:20 PM

watched it again last night. I'm thinking Brody, he's just become too greasey. He's playing Carrie like a fiddle.

elgecko · #**168** 12-21-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzbass

watched it again last night. I'm thinking Brody, he's just become too greasey. He's playing Carrie like a fiddle.

In that scenario, who sold him up the river by posting the confession video and why?

**colcifer** · #**169** 12-21-2012, 05:12 PM

If you were a terrorist, wouldn't you want to take credit for that bomb?

mongo2 · #**170** 12-21-2012, 06:38 PM

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I thought the car being moved right outside was a bit hokey too...but overall I'll suspend belief for an insane plot twist like that!

That's where they lost me. They failed big-time to suspend my disbelief. It was their shark jumping moment.

Downunderwonder · #**171** 12-21-2012, 11:11 PM

Brody is definitely a sliver tongued double ( or triple?) agent. I expect this will be the focus of the next series. Is he or isn't he?

Ongoing Carrie chaos, guaranteed, except she'll be batting for Brody, when she isn't drawing down on him. Meh, they do need to tone it down a bit to keep it believeable eh!

elgecko · #**172** 12-22-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by colcifer

If you were a terrorist, wouldn't you want to take credit for that bomb?

Sure, if I wanted to get away with it either by suicide or by fleeing. I'm not convinced that is was Brody's idea to leave the memorial service (foiling a suicide plot) or that he wanted to leave Langley after the bomb (foiling a successful escape).

Downunderwonder · #**173** 12-22-2012, 05:27 PM

How did Carrie get to the Canadian border and back in a few hours? Maybe I missed a change of plans but I thought Brody was left to walk into Canada.

buzzbass · #**174** 12-22-2012, 07:24 PM

Who else knew about the video ? Quinnn, Saul's crew & Estes, that's it ? Maybe the terrorist who claimed responsibility had a copy ? My gut would say Estes released it, but he got killed. My head hurts now, LOL

Downunderwonder · #**175** 12-22-2012, 08:24 PM

Iirc the TV report introduction labelled it as one tape from the terrorists, safe to say they had their own copy.

elgecko · #**176** 12-23-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Iirc the TV report introduction labelled it as one tape from the terrorists, safe to say they had their own copy.

The would make perfect sense but then you have to wonder why they made such a big deal about Saul spiriting his copy out of Beirut.

Immigrant · #**177** 12-31-2012, 07:32 PM

I'm in the middle of re-watching Season 2; the episode where Carrie and Quinn turn Brody. I know in the next few episodes, Carrie and Brody end up at the cabin with Quinn debating something while he has Brody in his sights.

Quinn is obsessed with Carrie. He is enamored by her abilities as an agent and fascinated by her craziness because crazy girls are great in the hay. I've caught him staring at her backside more than once and I haven't re-watched the episode when he exposes himself to her in the hospital yet, but that is classic behavior of someone removed from normal life and hasn't developed the ability to have non-business relationships.

Back to the cabin. Quinn realizes if he caps Brody, Carrie will go off the deep end and who knows what will happen. The only way he can turn Carrie against Brody is to frame him for something REALLY bad, and it wouldn't be hard for a CIA agent to pass the Brody recording to the media as "from Al Qaeda".

The guy is a total spook and I don't think it's beyond his moral line to blow up 300 plus people, innocent or not.

Downunderwonder · #**178** 12-31-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elgecko

The would make perfect sense but then you have to wonder why they made such a big deal about Saul spiriting his copy out of Beirut.

As I said when it happened, I put them taking Saul's card down as fishing for intelligence, none to subtly, rather than looking for a missing card that probably wasn't missed at that stage. I have a feeling the husband of the lady who tipped them off about the Nazir meet was one of the unfortunates who got sniped.

Funny how the rush of twisting plotlines smears the memory. I looked back and note I was concerned how Brody was going to maintain his profile with Nazir, maybe they will do a big retrospective reveal on how that went down in the Nazir camp?

Brody was playing Nazir or Nazir was playing everyone with Brody and only finally was Brody allowed to know he was compronmised with Nazir?

TimBosby · #**179** 01-08-2013, 08:53 PM

I just got caught up with Season 2 the other day. We got Season 1 for Christmas, burned through it, then got through Season 2 in a few days with OnDemand.

It pains me, but I think it was Saul. I love him to death but have been suspicious of him ever since the razor blade incident. Plus he just seemed way too calm after the bombing, at which he was conveniently not present. I think he was genuinely happy that Carrie was not present, but also surprised to find her alive.

I don't think it was Brody. They wouldn't have gone through all that terrorist redemption stuff just to have him be a terrorist again. That would be too much expected and kind of lame. It certainly could be another Nazir operative we haven't met yet, I guess. But I still think it's Saul - whether or not he's in cahoots with Nazir is beside the point, I think he may have done it for his own reasons: to get back at Estes/The CIA, frame Brody, bring Mira back from India, become a director in the CIA, etc.

Downunderwonder · #**180** 02-22-2013, 12:12 AM

Any Homelanders getting into The Americans? I started a thread on it which, surprisingly to me, died off.