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Old 10-27-2010, 04:56 PM
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So my Sister was in town last week and I stopped by her hotel room were she said she's like a cigarette [w/out going outside, as it was raining and windy]. I told her to go in the bathroom and stand under the fan and blow into it. She told me that she was talking to another smoker outside when she found out that someone had tried that the day before and was asked to leave immediately -- after losing a $250 "smoking deposit" that he didn't know he signed. Ouch.

Later on at the pool. I asked people for their theories and what I got was mostly that the maids have keen noses. I didn't think so. I think it was something like this:

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Maybe. However, cigarette smoke lingers for a long time. If youre a nonsmoker its quite easy to tell if someone was smoking tobacco in the room the night before as the smell will be absorbed into practically everything - the bedding, curtains, walls... pot smoke not so much though, the smell tends to dissipate rather quickly. Though, in the case of the person smoking in the bathroom being found out and asked to leave immediately, mosly likely something like what you mentioned was being used. Can smoking rooms only be found in Nevada these days, or do some hotels still offer them?
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lots of hotels where they used to allow smoking, and made into a non smoking room, you can still smell the stale cig smoke when you walk in. I smoke and can smell it. But MatticusMania is right, a non-smoker's nose is a lot more sensitive to the smell. When I snuck a smoke in my mother's house once, hours later, she knew I smoked inside. Despite being in the bathroom with the vents running and room spray. I know the times I quit, I could tell a smoker from a non smoker.
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You can smoke in hotel rooms in Vegas? Even though I only smoke occasionally, I think that's cool.

And another thing: Considering that smoking in bars/restaurants is illegal in Florida, how come I hear ads on the radio for a couple of drinking holes saying, "smokers welcome"?
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:13 PM
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Dude. I can smell someone smoking in the car ahead of me on the freeway. I've gotten "non-smoking" hotel rooms before where someone had smoked in the room, and asked to be moved. Like Matt said, it's absorbed into everything made of fabric.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:16 PM
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Dude. I can smell someone smoking in the car ahead of me on the freeway. I've gotten "non-smoking" hotel rooms before where someone had smoked in the room, and asked to be moved. Like Matt said, it's absorbed into everything made of fabric.
As a weekly traveler, I run into it a lot. I do the same thing.
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Dude. I can smell someone smoking in the car ahead of me on the freeway. I've gotten "non-smoking" hotel rooms before where someone had smoked in the room, and asked to be moved. Like Matt said, it's absorbed into everything made of fabric.
It even gets in the wallpaper! And I can also smell smokers ahead of me on the freeway sometimes!

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You can smoke in hotel rooms in Vegas? Even though I only smoke occasionally, I think that's cool.

And another thing: Considering that smoking in bars/restaurants is illegal in Florida, how come I hear ads on the radio for a couple of drinking holes saying, "smokers welcome"?
Yeah, I think you can still get a smoking room in Vegas, I know I did a few years ago.

With the bar thing, we have the same laws about indoor smoking here, a lot of bars still tolerate indoor smoking. This one bar near me has no smoking signs all over the place, probably 20 of them in plain sight no matter where in the bar you are, but they leave ashtrays out on the bar. Another one has this big ventilation system called 'Smokeeter' thats supposed to keep the smell down. I think a lot of bars are scared of loosing their patrons if they make them go outside to smoke. Thankfully, not all bars tolerate this.
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Dude. I can smell someone smoking in the car ahead of me on the freeway. I've gotten "non-smoking" hotel rooms before where someone had smoked in the room, and asked to be moved. Like Matt said, it's absorbed into everything made of fabric.
I, too, can smell a smoker ahead of me on the freeway. It's quite disturbing.

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You can smoke in hotel rooms in Vegas? Even though I only smoke occasionally, I think that's cool.

And another thing: Considering that smoking in bars/restaurants is illegal in Florida, how come I hear ads on the radio for a couple of drinking holes saying, "smokers welcome"?
This happens in other states too. I believe that if food makes up such a small percentage of their revenue, that they can allow smoking, but once they reach that certain threshold, it becomes illegal.
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This happens in other states too. I believe that if food makes up such a small percentage of their revenue, that they can allow smoking, but once they reach that certain threshold, it becomes illegal.
IME, its just bars getting away with the illegal activity. I dont think food being served matters, as Californians cannot smoke in restaurants either. Its just a handful of stubborn bars operating not entirely within the confines of the law.
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Thankfully, not all bars tolerate this.
Agreed, BUT, I'll turn it around and say thankfully some bars do.


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When I was still smoking I was glad that some bars still allowed it. Now that Ive quit I don't really care.

And yup, thats the Smokeeater thing I was talking about.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:37 PM
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So my Sister was in town last week and I stopped by her hotel room were she said she's like a cigarette [w/out going outside, as it was raining and windy]. I told her to go in the bathroom and stand under the fan and blow into it. She told me that she was talking to another smoker outside when she found out that someone had tried that the day before and was asked to leave immediately -- after losing a $250 "smoking deposit" that he didn't know he signed. Ouch.

Later on at the pool. I asked people for their theories and what I got was mostly that the maids have keen noses. I didn't think so. I think it was something like this:

http://www.vproducts.com/wifi-hotel.htm

Rules are rules but that's creepy.

"can't smell you"? dude. if you're a smoker, people can smell you. smokers can't smell themselves, because they're around it all the time. nonsmokers...they can smell it.

and it smells bad.
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"can't smell you"? dude. if you're a smoker, people can smell you. smokers can't smell themselves, because they're around it all the time. nonsmokers...they can smell it.

and it smells bad.
Pretty much. Smoking has long been thought to deaden taste and smell, adding a reason or two that smokers can't sniff things out like a non-smoker.

My dad is a cigar smoker and I could recently smell that he was in my car.
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As far as I'm aware, over here at least, unless the hotel actually catches you smoking there is nothing they can do. Even cigarette butts in the room can't be taken as proof.

I don't smoke, but half of my band do. It's a pain that hotel windows usually have that safety catch on that stops you leaning out by only opening about half an inch.
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"can't smell you"? dude. if you're a smoker, people can smell you. smokers can't smell themselves, because they're around it all the time. nonsmokers...they can smell it.

and it smells bad.
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For the 'smokers welcome' places they probably offer some type of gazebo out back/to the side of the building complete with a heater in the colder, rainier places, such as Scotland.

And yes, the one downside to visiting my parents, the house smells of smoke, and when I take the dog for the weekend he too can also smell of smoke - unless its winter, then he smells of wet dog. Which strangely reminds me of a wet digestive biscuit. Hmm.
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The hotels probably have carbon monoxide detectors or something that will pick it up immediately and relay it to the front desk, and they probably have them directly near the window/vent in the bathroom etc to catch you.
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