Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Off Topic [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Off Topic [BG] Non-music-related discussion and chat


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NYC & Vancouver, BC
How do you define American culture?

Sign in to disble this ad
I was recently asked this question during a discussion and I really did not know how to answer the question. How would you define American culture?
  #2  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:16 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Glendale & La Jolla, CA
Send a message via AIM to steve21
Awesome.

And **** YEAH!
  #3  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Papersen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
GOLD Supporting Member
Interesting topic.

Casually I`m reading a book from Samuel Huntington about it.
However, since I`m not American I don`t think I`m qualified to express a qualified opinion.
__________________
Fender MIA Club Member #22
U.S. Peavey Cirrus Club Member #13
Leo Fender Music Man club #6
Zon Club Member #5
  #4  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NYC & Vancouver, BC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papersen View Post
Interesting topic.

Casually I`m reading a book from Samuel Huntington about it.
However, since I`m not American I don`t think I`m qualified to express a qualified opinion.
I disagree. If anything an outside perspective would have greater objectivity.
  #5  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:49 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Listowel/KW Ontario
Over consumerist and very un-friendly.

lowsound
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by username n/a View Post
How is a picture of me feeling up a stranger music related?
  #6  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hancock, MD
Bipolar
__________________
Quote:
Your message here!
Just PM me the desired quote to enter.

Limited time only.
All submitted quotes are subject to be used for extortion and/or blackmail.
  #7  
Old 02-10-2008, 02:57 PM
fenderhutz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Harpers Ferry WV
Supporting Member
Excess.
  #8  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:00 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ontario
I love it and have spent a lot of time there, because of it, it's hard to describe though, it's big a super duper glamorous capitalist adventure, where opportunities do still exist if you are smart and work hard.

About the only things I ever got disappointed in about with regards to your country are:-

The manufacturing industry is nowhere near as good as it proports to be, in Europe - people have a very good impression about that but are usually taken aback when they see it for themselves.

The unabated carelessness with regard to mineral oil resources as reflected by the masses, if you don't want to care soooo much about the middle east - gotta stop driving those big trucks.

BS political campaigns which are an absolute joke.

I'm British and I live in Canada - if that helps you.

Frosty.
__________________
EBMM Club Member #10

Last edited by FunkyFrosty : 02-10-2008 at 03:04 PM.
  #9  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:00 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lakeland, FL
Monster Truck Racing
  #10  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:03 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ontario
Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyFrosty View Post
The unabated carelessness with regard to mineral oil resources as reflected by the masses, if you don't want to care soooo much about the middle east - gotta stop driving those big trucks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker View Post
Monster Truck Racing
HA - Perfect timing buddy, satire at its best!!
__________________
EBMM Club Member #10
  #11  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:06 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: an ignore list near you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
I was recently asked this question during a discussion and I really did not know how to answer the question. How would you define American culture?
I had a different answer, but having read some of the other responses, I think this fits better: unfortunately characterized by loud shiny parts that aren't really representative of the whole.

Mike

EDIT: This means you're focusing on the wrong ****, Einstein. Try rereading the question and grabbing a dictionary before you're done. Marcus, this isn't aimed at you.
__________________
You can't put a price on cool, but if you could it would be $BLIMP.00

Portal to the Land of Awesome: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f217/toy-blimp-giveaway-644521/

Last edited by mike_v_s : 02-10-2008 at 04:16 PM. Reason: people are stupid
  #12  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:12 PM
Papersen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
I disagree. If anything an outside perspective would have greater objectivity.
OK.

First of all I find American culture VERY interesting and as every other culture it has its highs and lows, IMHO.

When I was in College my History teacher showed us the difference between Culture and Civilization. When we speak about Culture we`re describing the original components that people from a certain area share, such as language, religion, race, land, history, food, etc.
A Civilization develops when a culture acquires certain influences from other cultures. Therefore I think it should be more accurate to describe an American Civilization than an American Culture.

Why do I refer to it that way ?
Because if we consider that an increasing percentage of the US population comes from other countries, it`s hard to describe a single model that can explain it all.

Think about spanish language in certain states (California or Florida) or food (pasta, pretzels or Pizza in NY) even religion is so vast and diverse that`s hard to describe.

However, I personally find that there are several simbols that describe American civilization such as the American flag, the love for Democracy, burgers and fries, the lack of traditional aristocracy, a superiority feeling, the common use of weapons, the passion for cars, the individualism, the commitment for work, the professionalism and determination to improve in each discipline adopted, the lack of knowledge of facts and history from the rest of the world and many, many others.

I know a lot of people will disagree with my opinion, but it`s my perspective from outside. It`s also a generalization. It`s hard to englobe a farmer from Iowa, a cab driver from NYC or a Chinese seller into the same description.

Let me say again that I find no other modern civilization more interesting than the American.
__________________
Fender MIA Club Member #22
U.S. Peavey Cirrus Club Member #13
Leo Fender Music Man club #6
Zon Club Member #5

Last edited by Papersen : 02-10-2008 at 03:14 PM.
  #13  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:12 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kansas City
Send a message via AIM to msquared Send a message via Skype™ to msquared
Quote:
Originally Posted by HollowBassman View Post
Bipolar
I think that as of the last 20 years or so, this is one of the most defining characteristics of American culture. In so many ways we are polarized by the issues we care about, whether it's football teams or Iraq or the elections or guns or whatever. There's not a lot of working together, it's a lot of "your team vs my team" with a fair amount of immediate contempt for the other guy. The off-topic section of Talkbass is a fine example of that, sadly.
  #14  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: an ignore list near you
Quote:
Originally Posted by msquared View Post
I think that as of the last 20 years or so, this is one of the most defining characteristics of American culture. In so many ways we are polarized by the issues we care about, whether it's football teams or Iraq or the elections or guns or whatever. There's not a lot of working together, it's a lot of "your team vs my team" with a fair amount of immediate contempt for the other guy. The off-topic section of Talkbass is a fine example of that, sadly.
Try reading the "Hey Pats" thread, it'll totally change your opinion on that. Oh, I'm kidding.

Mike
__________________
You can't put a price on cool, but if you could it would be $BLIMP.00

Portal to the Land of Awesome: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=644521
  #15  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:19 PM
Vorago's Avatar
(((o)))
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
Send a message via MSN to Vorago
Contradiction.

Las Vegas, Rock 'n Roll, porn, etc vs. an incredible uptightness in the media about nudity, profanity etc. Remember the Nipplegate row.
__________________
My photography blog

My Flickr stream


Jamais dans la tendance, mais toujours dans la bonne direction !


Vorago's recommended listening:
El-P Tuned Mass Damper


Classic!
  #16  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:28 PM
stratovani's Avatar
Friends, Romans, Bass Players...
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Spencer, MA, USA
Supporting Member
Darwinism run amok.
__________________
Hofner Group #34, Canadian Club #137, Le Club des Francophones No. 12, Straight-Forward Bassist club #4, Squier Affinity Club #11, 50+ Club #16. Go in, lay it down, and get out.
  #17  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Finland, EU
I understand USA as a country that values 'standing on one's own feet' practically to a fault. Those persons who make it to success are appreciated, but the other side is that it's hard to find support from other people, both financially and socially, unless it's family or there's something to benefit. Also, people are expected to strive for success constantly, so spending a lot of time at work is perfectly acceptable. As a nation, Americans still aren't exactly homogenious, which can be seen for example from the different religious and politically active groups and the quite large differences between the states, although most people are on the same line because of the mass media transmitting their thoughts around the continent.

When I compare what I understand about USA to Scandinavia, around here the nations definitely seem more united and built around the idea that the whole country is a virtual village where we stand as one. So, if someone has poor fortune, he should be assisted any way we can, which is why more tax money is spent on social welfare and universal medical coverage.
__________________
"..one day when someone comes up to you asking for advice you realize that it's never been the equipment at all." - Ken Rockwell, photographer

Last edited by Tsal : 02-10-2008 at 03:35 PM.
  #18  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:32 PM
Vorago's Avatar
(((o)))
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
Send a message via MSN to Vorago
Filthy communist!


__________________
My photography blog

My Flickr stream


Jamais dans la tendance, mais toujours dans la bonne direction !


Vorago's recommended listening:
El-P Tuned Mass Damper


Classic!
  #19  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Conceited
__________________
6 string club #2!
  #20  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:42 PM
csala's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Santa Monica, Ca
Supporting Member
We know more facts about Paris Hilton than we do about Barack Obama.
__________________
Did they get at you yesterday?
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:16 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.