How far will the smoking ban(s)go?

bassteban · #1 01-01-2008, 08:34 PM

I wonder where/if the current trend of smoking bans will end. I'm envisioning these little air-tight smoking ares where you pay a fee & go smoke(for all I know, there's something like this already). BTW, I'm an ex-smoker but fairly indifferent to all this, but still curious where it's going to go next. Thoughts?

iamlowsound · #2 01-01-2008, 08:38 PM

Total ban on smoking. Illegal to sell or buy cigarettes or any other tobacco products.

lowsound

bassteban · #3 01-01-2008, 08:40 PM

I don't think the Government would be willing to give up all that tax revenue.

doctorjazz · #4 01-01-2008, 08:41 PM

+1. That (along with a hardcore natural-rights stance on property rights) is why I oppose smoking bans on private property.

bassteban · #5 01-01-2008, 08:44 PM

I could see a ban on affecting/*polluting* the air outside your private prooperty(not endorsing here, just saying I could imagine it happening).

MyUsernameHere · #6 01-01-2008, 08:54 PM

It won't end until you can't smoke publicly, be overweight, eat anything other than tofu manufactured within 100 miles of where you live, wear perfume in public, burn wood in a fireplace, BBQ in your backyard, ride in a car without a helmet, drive a car for more than three miles a day without paying for someone to plant a tree somewhere, and use non-toxic/mercury containing lighting in your home.

If you do any of these things you either be fined excessively through taxes for the betterment of the community or will be deemed a drain on the society and denied health care for your own good.

Welcome to the future comrade.

Human Bass · #7 01-01-2008, 09:04 PM

I hope never. I dont have a problem if you sniff cocaine, inject heroin, chew some lsd. next to me, because it doesnt affect me, but if you smoke, the smoke will reach and intoxicate me.

jady · #8 01-01-2008, 09:13 PM

The funny thing about the whole 2nd hand smoke thing is that they would like you to believe that it is a huge threat. In comparison there are MUCH greater threats to our air quality. How about less emissions from cars or trucks, have you seen the billows of smoke a school bus puts out right at a child's height yet in CA you cannot smoke with a child in the car. Effed up priorities if you ask me, it's all about who pays the media to push which issue.

I would much rather inhale a little 2nd hand smoke than drive down a freeway with my window down.

msquared · #9 01-01-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MyUsernameHere

eat anything other than tofu manufactured within 100 miles of where you live

Note: eating tofu regularly isn't healthy.

hbarcat · #10 01-01-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MyUsernameHere

It won't end until you can't smoke publicly, be overweight, eat anything other than tofu manufactured within 100 miles of where you live, wear perfume in public, burn wood in a fireplace, BBQ in your backyard, ride in a car without a helmet, drive a car for more than three miles a day without paying for someone to plant a tree somewhere, and use non-toxic/mercury containing lighting in your home.

If you do any of these things you either be fined excessively through taxes for the betterment of the community or will be deemed a drain on the society and denied health care for your own good.

Welcome to the future comrade.

Great post.

I would like to LOL, but the thought that this day will come sooner rather than later sort of drains the humor out of it.

Cerb · #11 01-01-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hbarcat

Great post.

I would like to LOL, but the thought that this day will come sooner rather than later sort of drains the humor out of it.

+1

iamlowsound · #12 01-01-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jady

The funny thing about the whole 2nd hand smoke thing is that they would like you to believe that it is a huge threat. In comparison there are MUCH greater threats to our air quality. How about less emissions from cars or trucks, have you seen the billows of smoke a school bus puts out right at a child's height yet in CA you cannot smoke with a child in the car. Effed up priorities if you ask me, it's all about who pays the media to push which issue.

I would much rather inhale a little 2nd hand smoke than drive down a freeway with my window down.

I agree, and the various world governments are just a bunch of pansies when it comes to doing what is right in regards to emissions and global warming. All the other countries are saying that they need the US to sign on to make a difference, but that is just a lame excuse.

lowsound

meev992 · #13 01-01-2008, 09:21 PM

I hear that in Hawaii, some legislation is trying to be passed, to ban all public smoking.

MyUsernameHere · #14 01-01-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by msquared

Note: eating tofu regularly isn't healthy.

So are you saying everything else I mentioned is a perfectly good idea and/or true?

69nites · #15 01-01-2008, 09:27 PM

I'm mixed on the subject

I do believe the greater good is what should be taken into account

Since in the united states less than 50% of the population (by the surveys I've seen) smoke I think that since the smokers are in the minority the rights of the greater population to not be exposed to cancer causing smoke is greater.

I also believe that it's a business right to allow whatever they please so long as it's a legal product.

It's a conflict within me but I do know that I personally don't like being exposed to smoke but I'll generally just choose the less smokey better ventilated places to go.

if I can see the smoke in the air I generally will never go to that establishment again. If more non-smokers did this also I think the need for smoking bans would be less necessary.

69nites · #16 01-01-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by msquared

Note: eating tofu regularly isn't healthy.

depends on the tofu.

firm tofu has much higher fat content.

Stanley Design · #17 01-01-2008, 09:57 PM

What I don't understand is why there aren't more companies pushing "pure" tobacco, without nicotine, battery acid, tar, etc inside it.

It'd be nice if the government just dramatically raised taxes on tobacco, to force people to quit or pay through the nose for their filthy habit. I'm sure the government could get on board with that. How about paying a dollar a cigarette, or even 2 dollars, that'd bring in a ton of extra gravy for the fat-cats paychecks.

Jeremy Crockett · #18 01-01-2008, 10:05 PM

The criminalization of smokers has begun

msquared · #19 01-01-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MyUsernameHere

So are you saying everything else I mentioned is a perfectly good idea and/or true?

Neither.

kserg · #20 01-01-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberMooN

The criminalization of smokers has begun

Are you kidding me? You consider endangerment of child's health to be "criminalization of smokers"??? Car is a enclosed environments. You have to be a moron to smoke inside that car with a kid being in it...

For record, I am ok with smoking being banned in enclosed areas. However 25 feet away from doors and windows and public (out-door) smoking ban is taking it too far.