I don't believe in karma, but wow....

jrthebassguy · #1 02-15-2009, 04:58 PM

About six months ago, an old friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver. Turns out, the man who struck and killed her and her boyfriend had already been arrested for two previous driving while intoxicated charges, which is why he was now facing life in prison (some drunk driving deaths result in lesser sentences when there is no prior record).

Anywho, he was released on bond and guess what...he gets killed by a drunk driver. Aint that a *****. Justice served.

You can read the story here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/6262942.html

kserg · #2 02-15-2009, 05:04 PM

What a peace of **** - both of them.

Sorry for your loss.

tasty sweeps · #3 02-15-2009, 05:05 PM

i wouldn't call that justice, as much as a killer being killed feels 'good' on some sick level, when neither killer had the intent to kill, it's just more sad, alcohol-soaked people acting irresponsibly. that's not my notion of justice.

sorry about your friend.

**john turner** · #4 02-15-2009, 05:07 PM

jerk got off easy. should have had to spend his life in prison rotting.

hbarcat · #5 02-15-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tasty sweeps

i wouldn't call that justice, as much as a killer being killed feels 'good' on some sick level, when neither killer had the intent to kill, it's just more sad, alcohol-soaked people acting irresponsibly. that's not my notion of justice.

Why can't it be all of the above?

Justice.
Revenge.
Sad.

Fassa Albrecht · #6 02-15-2009, 05:39 PM

Whoa, that's actually pretty scary.

tasty sweeps · #7 02-15-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hbarcat

Why can't it be all of the above?

Justice.
Revenge.
Sad.

people can perceive it a lot of different ways, so in that sense it is all of the above. i was just saying that in my view of justice- that is, a system of addressing actions or issues that go against common fundamental human characteristics and universal notions of decency, respect, etc, while still adhering to those characteristics- is something that doesn't encompass a drunk driver killing a person who killed a person while driving drunk themselves.

i don't see revenge there, really, because the acts were totally separate. but there's still that feeling of an-eye-for-an-eye kind of thing, which i think is disturbing and serves as a good example of hypocrisy- that is, denouncing the crimes of someone else and not looking at your own. when the crime is punished by the same crime, that's a very bad thing. well, i think so.

Disco_Gee · #8 02-15-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tasty sweeps

i wouldn't call that justice, as much as a killer being killed feels 'good' on some sick level, when neither killer had the intent to kill, it's just more sad, alcohol-soaked people acting irresponsibly. that's not my notion of justice.

sorry about your friend.

I agree. I think it's just sad all around.

disenchant · #9 02-15-2009, 10:30 PM

It's sad. But that's how life works sometimes.

My cousin went to jail for stealing cars. When he got out he was killed by someone who had stolen a car and was running from the police. Also very sad karma.

jonathan_matos5 · #10 02-15-2009, 10:35 PM

it am a firm believer in zero tolerance for drunk driving. if i were king there would be no plea bargain for a shorter sentence and mandatory jail time for DUI.

ehque · #11 02-15-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathan_matos5

it am a firm believer in zero tolerance for drunk driving. if i were king there would be no plea bargain for a shorter sentence and mandatory jail time for DUI.

You're welcome in Singapore any time.

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Originally Posted by Singapore's Stance

First Time – Drink driver will be fined between $1000/- and $5000/- or six months imprisonment.

Second Time – Drink driver will be fined between $3000/- and $10,000/- fine and imprisonment for a term of up to one year.

Repeated Time – Drink Driver will face enhanced punishment up to 3 times the penalty, a maximum of $30,000/- fine and three years' imprisonment.

Offenders causing death or serious injuries can also be caned up to 6 strokes.

All those convicted will be disqualified from driving for at least 1 year, even if they have not caused any traffic accidents.

Apparently they are also seeking to tighten up these laws.

jrthebassguy · #12 02-15-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tasty sweeps

i wouldn't call that justice, as much as a killer being killed feels 'good' on some sick level, when neither killer had the intent to kill, it's just more sad, alcohol-soaked people acting irresponsibly. that's not my notion of justice.

sorry about your friend.

That was DWI #3 for this guy - so he gets zero sympathy from me. I would agree with your position if this were one unfortunate incident - but if you're driving drunk that often, you're asking for trouble.

Bruce Lindfield · #13 02-16-2009, 05:04 AM

Well at least it takes one "menace" off the roads...

M@ddest_H@tter! · #14 02-16-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by john turner

jerk got off easy. should have had to spend his life in prison rotting.

you said it man....at least he's not causing trouble anymore.

to the OP sorry for your loss....your right...Karma is a ***** and a half

Baryonyx · #15 02-16-2009, 07:38 AM

He definitely got off lightly there.

tasty sweeps · #16 02-16-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jrthebassguy

That was DWI #3 for this guy - so he gets zero sympathy from me. I would agree with your position if this were one unfortunate incident - but if you're driving drunk that often, you're asking for trouble.

that is indeed super lame. but when a person gets busted for dwi they shouldn't just sit in a cell. that's not a deterrent. they should be taught about alcohol and go through safety courses for driving, and of course lose their license for a length of time fitting the incident, but also pretty severe.

drunk drivers don't ask for trouble, they are trouble.

as for 'zero tolerance' policies? i have no tolerance for them. that's just not the way life works. and it shouldn't be.

DaveDeVille · #17 02-16-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jrthebassguy

About six months ago, an old friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver. ...

You can read the story here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/6262942.html

sorry for the loss of your friend .... R.I.P.

MJ5150 · #18 02-16-2009, 08:00 AM

Wow, that is weird. I can't say that I feel sorry for the guy myself.

-Mike

PSPookie · #19 02-16-2009, 08:04 AM

The universe has it's own idea of justice. I suppose 'karma' is as good a word for it as any.

Remember this the next time you think no one is looking.

machine gewehr · #20 02-16-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by john turner

jerk got off easy. should have had to spend his life in prison rotting.

I agree.

Even though that may be counted as a kind of justice still doesn't bring your friends back.Sorry for your loss.