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Old 12-15-2012, 03:31 PM
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"If she didn’t want sex, her body should have just shut down"

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US judge prompts outrage after saying: ‘If she didn’t want sex, her body should have just shut down’ in rape case, and reducing sentence of attacker by ten years

A US judge has prompted outrage after saying that a rape victim didn't put up a fight during her assault and that if someone doesn't want sex, the body 'will not permit that to happen.'

Judge Derek Johnson's comments, which echo those of outgoing U.S. representative Todd Akin, who used the phrase 'legitimate rape' and said women who are the victims of rape rarely get pregnant, have drawn widespread condemnation.

The states Commission on Judicial Performance has also attacked the the judge for taking ten years off the recommended sentence for the rapist in the case, imposing a six-year sentence instead.

"In the commission's view, the judge's remarks reflected outdated, biased and insensitive views about sexual assault victims who do not 'put up a fight.' Such comments cannot help but diminish public confidence and trust in the impartiality of the judiciary," wrote Lawrence Simi, the commission's chairman.

Judge Johnson was making the comments in the case of a man who threatened to mutilate the face and genitals of his ex-girlfriend with a heated screwdriver. The man also beat her with a metal baton and made violent threats before committing rape and forcing oral copulation.

According to police reports Judge Johnson said: 'I’m not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something, if someone doesn’t want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

'That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn’t necessarily willing, she didn’t put up a fight.'

The commission, which stated it only learnt of the remarks in May, 10 to 0 that Johnson deserved his public admonishment.

The judge, who has been with Orange County Superior Court since 2000 also said the rape was 'technical' and not 'a real, live criminal case.'

To treat this case like the rape cases that we all hear about is an insult to victims of rape,'the judge is reported to have told the LA Times.

He is also reported to have said: 'I think it’s an insult. I think it trivializes a rape.'

Judge Johnson has since apologised for his comments.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8414674.html



Seriously? Why is this man still in a position that requires someone to be able to make adequate judgement?!
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:43 PM
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:46 PM
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We are going through some serious growing pains over here and this is an example of it. It's ridiculous and stupid, and hopefully all the Ragnar Redbeard mentality in this country will come to a head soon. Things have to get worse before they get better, I guess.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:00 PM
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Dude needs to experience a similar ordeal himself, so he can really grasp the enormous stupidity of his statements.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:03 PM
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"The county north of us is historically more conservative, and their elected officials are a reflection of that," said Unrepresented, who was trying really, really hard to not step over the boundaries of the political discussion ban in the Off Topic forum.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:05 PM
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"The county north of us is historically more conservative, and their elected officials are a reflection of that," said Unrepresented, who was trying really, really hard to not step over the boundaries of the political discussion ban in the Off Topic forum.
No need of politics, we're discussing stupidity here.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:08 PM
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And misogyny.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:20 PM
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ANNNNNND....that's why I place my trust in John Browning's finest creation instead of the legal system.
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ANNNNNND....that's why I place my trust in John Browning's finest creation instead of the legal system.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:47 PM
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All I can say is that this is infuriating. How do such stupid people come into power?
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:00 PM
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Ugh. *insert infractable statement of extreme disgust here*
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:38 PM
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I remember someone on fox news saying the same thing a couple of years ago.

Edit: Here's the video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKa5CY-KOHc

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:59 PM
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Actually that statement by Akin was made just this past election cycle, and is likely what cost him his seat. Thank goodness.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:01 PM
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what a piece of work... He'll probably keep his job ... And continue to do and say what he wants...

I don't care if a woman or man dresses or acts in a manner suggesting they " want it " or are easy ,no means NO...


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Old 12-15-2012, 07:01 PM
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My wife has shut my body down when she didn't want sex.......
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:11 PM
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All I can say is that this is infuriating. How do such stupid people come into power?
C'mon Chef. Your location says Texas. You should already know the answer to this one.


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"The county north of us is historically more conservative, and their elected officials are a reflection of that," said Unrepresented, who was trying really, really hard to not step over the boundaries of the political discussion ban in the Off Topic forum.
Even the most so called conservative person I know would label this judge an idiot. I don't think it has anything to do with politics.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:11 PM
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It has to do with extremism. The more extremist position you take on issues, often you're left with questionable support of your arguments... I would consider being "pro-rape" to be an extremist position.

Tying that into my first post beyond that will probably result in a locked thread and a warning in my inbox.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:56 PM
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It has to do with extremism. The more extremist position you take on issues, often you're left with questionable support of your arguments... (snip)
Quoted for truth. The further you go from the center the more pear-shaped the reality.
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LOL. 1911 Ma deuce is...deuce.

Although..if I could fit an M2 in my waistband....
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