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Old 12-05-2008, 05:52 AM
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Oil to Plunge Below $25 Next Year, Merrill Lynch Says
Friday, December 05, 2008


Crude oil prices may crash below $25 a barrel next year and gas prices could fall below $1 a gallon if the global recession spreads to China, an energy analyst and CEO said Thursday.

Demand for oil will continue to decline in 2009 as economic growth slows to its weakest level since 1982, Merrill Lynch Commodity Strategist Francisco Blanch concluded in a report.

"A temporary drop below $25 a barrel is possible if the global recession extends to China and significant non-OPEC cuts are required," Blanch was quoted by Bloomberg as saying. "In the short-run, global oil demand growth will likely take a further beating as banks continue to cut credit to consumers and corporations."

In October, when oil was trading for around $100 a barrel, Merrill predicted prices could drop to $50. Oil fell Friday to $43.64 a barrel in electronic trading.

The last time crude fell below $25 a barrel was November 2002.

Meanwhile, Gulf Oil CEO Joe Petrowski said on Wednesday that the price of oil could sink even lower — to $20 a barrel — and gasoline prices could drop as low as $1 a gallon by early next year.

Gulf Oil, based in Newton, Massachusetts, is an oil wholesaler.

"The damage to the economy by the financial turmoil is much bigger than the market initially thought," said Tetsu Emori, commodity markets fund manager at ASTMAZ Futures Co. in Tokyo. "The economic data now is much worse than what we expected a few months ago."

Oil prices have fallen about 70 percent since peaking at $147.27 in July.

Dismal economic data continued Thursday in the U.S., pointing toward a sharp contraction of gross domestic product in the fourth quarter and weakening demand for crude products, such as gasoline.

The government said the number of people continuing to claim unemployment benefits last week reached 4.09 million, the highest level since December 1982, while the proportion of workers receiving benefits matched a level reached 16 years ago, in September 1992.

Factory orders plunged a bigger-than-expected 5.1 percent in October caused by big cutbacks in demand for steel, autos, computers and heavy machinery. It was the largest decrease since an 8.5 percent fall in July 2000.

On Thursday, AT&T said it was slashing 12,000 jobs, or about 4 percent of its work force. Chemicals company DuPont said it will cut 2,500 jobs and media conglomerate Viacom Inc. said it will eliminate about 850 jobs.

Investors will be eyeing the Labor Department's November unemployment report on Friday, which economists expect will show that the jobless rate rose to 6.8 percent and that companies cut another 320,000 jobs.

"It could take a while before the economy and oil prices really hit bottom," Emori said. "Oil seems headed below $40."

In other Nymex trading, gasoline futures rose 0.44 cent to 97 cents. Heating oil fell 0.67 cent to $1.50 a gallon while natural gas for January delivery slid 7.9 cents to 5.94 per 1,000 cubic feet.

In London, January Brent crude rose 7 cents to $42.35 on the ICE Futures exchange.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Actually, with demand for certain products waning, I can see a lot of prices dropping. This is what happens when a free market economy is allowed to run it's course.
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Dude a weak economy kicks ass.
The ONLY advantage I see is cheap gas.

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Old 12-05-2008, 06:31 AM
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Maybe the speculators and OPEC countries realized that the US consumer wasn't going to take it anymore. Those chants of "drill, baby, drill" had to give some of those oil futures investors the jitters, I'm willing to bet. A nervous group of speculators holding $142 futures probably realized they were better off dumping at that point. Hence, the bubble began to burst. I'm sure the price will eventually settle at the proper market value once the panic sell off has run its course.

Nonetheless, we don't want to see it go down too low; it would be a sign of a global recession, and unfortunately we are probably in the midst of one right now.
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Oh good, another prediction about what the future oil price will be. Some say it will go up, some say it will go down and some say it will stay the same.

Flip a coin, throw a dart at a dart board, read the stars, tea leaves or goat entrails, or just make a guess based on your own intuition. It will be just as reliable as expert opinions such as this.
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Luckily, a lot of people got smart and started buying more fuel efficient vehicles. When that happens, there is a permanent decrease in demand.


I'm not a "green" guy by any means, but the less and less a person has to buy, the less the demand, thus lower a price. Simple economics.
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I could really care less about the future, all I know is im going to do all the driving I want since gas now costs less than it has in the last 6 years!

and who knows when it might start going back up...
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