An "Inconvenient" Computer Generated Video

[Sadowsky_Nut]

http://newsbusters.org/node/20680?q=...nvenient-truth

The helicopter fly over in "An Inconvenient Truth" of the melting ice sheets in antarctica was actually taken from the fiction movie "The Day After Tomorrow" and to my knowledge, was not disclosed as such.

A documentary, this film is not.

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Excellent!

[XtreO]

It was an illustrative image. CARE

[SuperDuck]

That's pretty lame.

[ElectrAcoustic]

How does this fact change anything? Not for nothing but these "newshounds" seem like they are in the same vein as FauxNews.. They wouldn't know a real story that actually affects people in real life and are more interested in hearing themselves bloviate.. Always, always, always consider your source folks.. This is garbage and there's plenty of it out there..

[RWP]

Gore not telling the truth? Please tell me it isn't so!

[Mon Rominee]

Do you feel this fact does a disservice to the overall theme / intent of the film? It's not like Gore is a director, and it's not like this documentary is the first to use canned or appropriate(d) footage as a means to an end. With a limited budget, are you gonna $$ charter $$ a helicopter to fly to the ice caps ( and risk public outcry for wasting all the fuel to get there), or do you ask for permission to use existing footage to get your idea across?

I don't see any real damage here. Except to the Polar regions.

Why no outcry for the millions upon millions being wasted every election season for campaigns?

[peterbright]

It's inconvenient to the corporations & their shills to acknowledge the truth.

[ElectrAcoustic]

Bottom line is that whether or not the film used elements from another film is immaterial.. Global warming is here and will be one of the biggest challenges our generation faces along with minimizing poverty and misery in the world. It will take the work of our most intelligent people and some really difficult "out of the box" thinking & action for us to address the dire (YES DIRE) situation. There is no more debate on global warming, the debate now is how do we fix what we were so nearsighted not to see coming 30 years ago.. If you're not part of that solution, get out of the way of people who are..

[TrooperFarva]

Originally Posted by ElectrAcoustic

There is no more debate on global warming

What? Personally, I think global warming is a problem, but to say that there's no more debate about it, that just doesn't make any sense at all. There's plenty of debate about it.

[Mon Rominee]

Maybe the word denying would have been better.

[Brad Barker]

ok, ok,, ok. before we head down the same road that all of the climate change threads go, i want you to spend some time reading this:

http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/Physics10/PffP.html

on the left margin, scroll down to "select chapters," and click on "climate." dr. muller's discussion of climate change is by far the most rational i've ever seen.

he provides a good description of the sensationalizing that al gore committed in his movie, as well as the results from legitimate climate research. he also tackles the (apparently flawed) notion that the number of hurricanes in recent years has increased due to global warming.

it's pretty much like mythbusters but about something that's actually important.

(that said, keep in mind the conclusion that it's 90-some-odd percent likely that man is responsible in part for the recent spike in temperature, which is more or less the scientifically honest way of saying, "yeah, we're responsible.")

[Ericman197]

The thing that shocks me most is that so many of us are still taking Al Gore's side when it's quite obvious that he used false and misleading information in many instances. What if I made a documentary about global warming as a hoax, and put in some fake evidence? That's OK too right?

[ElectrAcoustic]

Originally Posted by TrooperFarva

What? Personally, I think global warming is a problem, but to say that there's no more debate about it, that just doesn't make any sense at all. There's plenty of debate about it.

Let me clarify.. there is no more debate about whether there is a major problem, regardless of how many folks made fun of Gore and paid for bogus "scientific" studies to refute him.. fact is, he's right and we're at the edge of the precipice.

The only debate now is how do we fix it?????????????????

[burk48237]

Originally Posted by ElectrAcoustic

Bottom line is that whether or not the film used elements FICTIONfrom another film is immaterial.. Global warming is here Despite the fact we just had the coldest winter in thirty years, and science still can't prove that an element found in huge quantities in nature is harmful to the planetand will be one of the biggest challenges our generation faces along with minimizing poverty and misery in the world. It will take the work of our most intelligent people people like meand some really difficult "out of the box" thinking and people like me deciding for you& action for us to address the dire (YES DIRE) situation. There is no more debate on global warmingbecause smarter people like me have already decided it was happening just like global cooling of forty years ago, the debate now is how do we fix what we were so nearsighted not to see coming 30 years agowhen we we're busy fighting global cooling.. If you're not part of that solution, get out of the waygive up control of your life to the of people who are..

Fixed it for you, always glad to help.

[ElectrAcoustic]

Originally Posted by Ericman197

The thing that shocks me most is that so many of us are still taking Al Gore's side when it's quite obvious that he used false and misleading information in many instances. What if I made a documentary about global warming as a hoax, and put in some fake evidence? That's OK too right?

NO! It's not Gore's side.. it's the side of survival for the human race.. and as far as misleading.. I'd like specific examples.. I bet you can't come up with one that hasn't been shown to be a BS smear campaign generated by Exxon/Mobil!

[Mon Rominee]

Originally Posted by ElectrAcoustic

NO! It's not Gore's side.. it's the side of survival for the human race!

Yes. I'm no fan of Gorebot, but applaud his efforts just the same.

[ElectrAcoustic]

Originally Posted by burk48237

Fixed it for you, always glad to help.

That's so very 2005 of you!!! THANKS

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Originally Posted by Ericman197

The thing that shocks me most is that so many of us are still taking Al Gore's side when it's quite obvious that he used false and misleading information in many instances. What if I made a documentary about global warming as a hoax, and put in some fake evidence? That's OK too right?

Because Gore used a pile of BS means the whole thing must be BS?

Because one person releases false information, that automatically voids all the years of true study put into the field?

[TrooperFarva]

Originally Posted by ElectrAcoustic

there is no more debate about whether there is a major problem

Yes, there is. Just because it's clear in your mind that there's a major problem, doesn't mean everyone else holds the same opinion.