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Old 01-18-2009, 02:15 PM
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Friday morning it was about negative 30 F when I tried to leave for work. I put the key in the ignition and the dash lights came on, I could hear the fuel pump working and then . . . nothing. The starter wouldn't engage. I tried the usual stuff, like checking the battery terminals and fuses. I checked to see if I had left the lights or radio on and I hadn't, in fact, the headlights worked fine after I turned them on so it appeared the battery was still holding a charge. I did notice that there was a lot of snow in the engine compartment from the strong wind that we'd had overnight and I thought that might be causing some kind of electrical problem.

That day I did two things, I ran an extension cord out to the car and plugged in an electric light under the hood to get a little heat in there to try to thaw things out and I also went to the store and bought a new battery as the one I had was about 4 years old. Later that day I tried again with the same results - starter wouldn't crank.

Saturday, I got out my tools and tried to diagnose the problem and hoped it wasn't a bad starter because it would be a major pain in the butt working out in the snow underneath my car when the temperature was below 0 F. After almost freezing my fingers off under the car tapping on the starter and trying to get it started, I gave up and went inside.

Yesterday I went out to try yet again, since it was a lot warmer out and after reading the repair manual, I found out that there is a theft deterrent device on my car that disables the ignition unless it detects the key with the proper electronic "signature". I tried to no avail to figure out how to diagnose that system and was just about to give up, when I had the image of John Cleese from Fawlty Towers flash in my mind where he's sitting in his car and it refuses to start, so he threatens to beat the car until it starts and when it doesn't, he gets a tree branch and flogs the **** out of it.

Yes, I decided to try that. I loudly threatened to beat the crap out of my car if it refused to start and then I started pounding on the dashboard and steering column and I told my car it had one last chance before I had it towed to the junkyard. Then I turned the key and it started right up.


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Old 01-18-2009, 02:19 PM
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hahahaha amazing

fawlty towers is one of the funniest series ive ever watched
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great story.

glad im not the only Fawlty Towers fan, that show is amazing.
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Is it a GM with the Passlock II 'security' system by any chance?
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Is it a GM with the Passlock II 'security' system by any chance?

How did you know?
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I just bought the Fawlty Towers DVD set last week and saw this episode a few days ago. Big fan of that show.
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Ok, here we go...

My old car (01 Impala) did that about once a year and then all of a sudden started happening once a month. After than and other many things failing, got tired of the POS and sold it.$600 + computers and still did it.

The most common fixes I found from my extensive research.

1. Get a car locksmith to take out and clean the key cylinder. Sometimes dirt in there messed with the key circuit.

2. Remote starters have a 'bypass' for this mechanism since they start the car without the key. Some kind of security code is needed for this but anyone that installs remote starters know how to do it.

A lot of people just buy the bypass mechanism of the remote starter (without the part that actually does the remote starting) for about $50 plus installation and just completely disable this completely useless 'feature'. IMO, if you go in this direction, just spend the $200 and get the remote starter.

Sorry, not a good solution but along with the other million problems I had with that car, that was the best alternative soulution most people found to the passlock II FAIL.


Edit: all you have to do when this happens is leave the key in on the ON position for 15-20 minutes (until security message stops blinking and becomes solid) then turn the key back to off and start again. The system disables itself after a about 15 minutes.

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Old 01-18-2009, 04:19 PM
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Ok, here we go...

My old car (01 Impala) did that about once a year and then all of a sudden started happening once a month. After than and other many things failing, got tired of the POS and sold it.$600 + computers and still did it.

The most common fixes I found from my extensive research.

1. Get a car locksmith to take out and clean the key cylinder. Sometimes dirt in there messed with the key circuit.

2. Remote starters have a 'bypass' for this mechanism since they start the car without the key. Some kind of security code is needed for this but anyone that installs remote starters know how to do it.

A lot of people just buy the bypass mechanism of the remote starter (without the part that actually does the remote starting) for about $50 plus installation and just completely disable this completely useless 'feature'. IMO, if you go in this direction, just spend the $200 and get the remote starter.

Sorry, not a good solution but along with the other million problems I had with that car, that was the best alternative soulution most people found to the passlock II FAIL.


Edit: all you have to do when this happens is leave the key in on the ON position for 15-20 minutes (until security message stops blinking and becomes solid) then turn the key back to off and start again. The system disables itself after a about 15 minutes.


Nice. I'm so glad I have this "feature" on my car.
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I just bought the Fawlty Towers DVD set last week and saw this episode a few days ago. Big fan of that show.



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