Jon Stewart vs Jim Cramer

AJ Brown · #1 03-13-2009, 09:07 PM

http://www.hulu.com/watch/62203/the-...hu-mar-12-2009

doctorjazz · #2 03-13-2009, 09:14 PM

I loved it, but 10 bucks says this gets locked within three pages.

coreyfyfe · #3 03-13-2009, 09:26 PM

they have the full interview up on comedy central uncensored/unedited in 3 parts, about 5 min each. I guess it ran 8 minutes longer than it was supposed to so they had to cut a lot out for the show.

AJ Brown · #4 03-13-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz

I loved it, but 10 bucks says this gets locked within three pages.

I personally didn't see this as political. Just one comedian calling out a network for not doing their job.

doctorjazz · #5 03-13-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ Brown

I personally didn't see this as political. Just one comedian calling out a network for not doing their job.

That part of it is kosher, but the whole discussion of who's to blame for the current economic state is likely to go to non-OT-friendly places.

Of course I could be wrong, but I have noticed kind of a pattern with threads related to the economy.

AJ Brown · #6 03-13-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz

That part of it is kosher, but the whole discussion of who's to blame for the current economic state is likely to go to non-OT-friendly places.

Of course I could be wrong, but I have noticed kind of a pattern with threads related to the economy.

Yeah. You're probably right. Oh well. I thought the vid was great.

fretlessspence · #7 03-13-2009, 11:15 PM

Just more finger pointing. IMO, we need to look a little (or a lot)further back than what Jim Kramer reported on. Just adding my fuel to the fire. Let's get this thread closed!

mattq · #8 03-14-2009, 01:21 AM

i don't think i've ever seen jon stewart be that intense with an interview before. it was kind of awesome

Gard · #9 03-14-2009, 07:17 AM

...wow...

...what kind of world are we in when the COMEDIAN is calling out a FINANCIAL REPORTER on financial reporting.

...brilliant work by Stewart.

Barkless Dog · #10 03-14-2009, 07:21 AM

We all know what happened to the Comedian don't we?

Stinsok · #11 03-14-2009, 08:25 AM

Exactly when did Cramer fall out of favor with the left?

iamlowsound · #12 03-14-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinsok

Exactly when did Cramer fall out of favor with the left?

He was in favour with the left at one point? He is quite right wing. I have often noticed that Stewart is serious with his interviews, not so much with the rest of the show. It would be good for Colbert to have Cramer on his show now, that would be good TV.

lowsound

fitbass3p · #13 03-14-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by iamlowsound

He was in favour with the left at one point? He is quite right wing. I have often noticed that Stewart is serious with his interviews, not so much with the rest of the show. It would be good for Colbert to have Cramer on his show now, that would be good TV.

lowsound

Cramer was on Colbert like...last week? With many puppies and kittens, it was a good time.

Oric · #14 03-14-2009, 09:09 AM

All I know is there's a guy screaming at the camera about money.
I don't understand TV sometimes (but I do like Jon Stewart, he's got quite a comedic wit)

Steve · #15 03-14-2009, 09:14 AM

I thought that was a pretty worthwhile piece of television but, he's the thing,

The entire financial news network is based in a very large part on access to the insiders at the top otherwise all you have is talking heads going over spread sheets.

If CNBC became confrontational and started pretending to be 60 minutes, NOBODY on Wall St. would talk to them about anything and the network would be over.

The reality is that if CNBC did shout doom from the rooftops, it would have been ignored just like all the others who expressed concern over the false economy.

There was plenty of warning in advance of what happened. It all got ignored because everyone was making too much money on the lie.

John Stewarts beef isn't with Jim Cramer or even CNBC. It's way bigger than that. His beef is with human avarice and hubris. Good luck fixing that.

IMHO

dean owens · #16 03-14-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iamlowsound

He was in favour with the left at one point? He is quite right wing. I have often noticed that Stewart is serious with his interviews, not so much with the rest of the show. It would be good for Colbert to have Cramer on his show now, that would be good TV.

lowsound

wrong! jim cramer is a strong obama supporter and a very left leaning democrat.

as to when he fell out of favor... when he recently started criticizing what obama is doing with the economy. it was within the last week or so.

Dr. Cheese · #17 03-14-2009, 10:18 AM

It is interesting that comedians are doing so much political commentary. Last week, Bill Maher did an interview with T. Boone Pickens about his windmill plan that was much more hard hitting than anything I have every seen done by conventional news. D.L. Hughly is also pretty interesting on CNN. I guess Dennis Miller needs to start interviewing people so the right wing can be happy too.

scottice · #18 03-14-2009, 10:23 AM

Cramers ratings are down since the airing.

iamlowsound · #19 03-14-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

It is interesting that comedians are doing so much political commentary. Last week, Bill Maher did an interview with T. Boone Pickens about his windmill plan that was much more hard hitting than anything I have every seen done by conventional news. D.L. Hughly is also pretty interesting on CNN. I guess Dennis Miller needs to start interviewing people so the right wing can be happy too.

I like it that comedians are doing more political/financial interviews. They can ask all the questions that reporters are either too scared to ask, too stupid to ask or are not aloud to ask.

lowsound

basslinejam · #20 03-14-2009, 10:43 AM

I watched the broadcast version and I felt that it wasn't really a fair fight. Cramer really didn't stake out any position contrary to Stewart. He mostly did a big mea culpa or tried to play the victim with his explanations that he was lied to by guys he trusted. Jon was insightful and I was surprised that Cramer had no real insights to add to Stewart's criticisms of a system being gamed by the few at the expense of the many (us).
If financial news networks are worried about losing access, they are falling into a trap. The CEO's or whoever else want to control their image and the flow of information about their businesses will be forced to provide access if the reporting is strong enough. For example, if Cramer criticizes Bank of America on his show for being over-leveraged, they will be forced to respond in order to fight the downward force of the bad publicity on their stock.
Lastly, I was creeped out by the footage from the Street.com in which Cramer basically ran through the playbook that bank and fund managers use to manipulate stock prices to minimize the risk they may have in their short positions. That is some of the stuff that made Stewart so angry - and, frankly, me too.