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10-23-2009, 02:27 PM
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This article was printed in The National Post (Toronto) this morning: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/can...tml?id=2135749
To me this is completely ridiculous. The clincher is that the thief gets a reduced sentence because he has agreed to testify against the guy he robbed! |
10-23-2009, 02:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PA. | | | No it is not just. If i found that shoplifter I would have deserved my assault charges.
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10-23-2009, 03:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | | Welcome to Canada. I love this country, but our justice system is absurd. It is lenient to the point of being laughable. |
10-23-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious  Welcome to Canada. I love this country, but our justice system is absurd. It is lenient to the point of being laughable. | Apparently the leniency doesn't extend to people defending their property and standing up to criminals.
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10-23-2009, 09:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Yeah, it's a weird one, to be sure. According to the news, because he seized the guy after he had committed the crime, Chen was considered to be breaking the law. I think it's ridiculous, but I'm guessing the authorities are afraid that if they don't at least put him through a reasonable amount of court-induced hassle, they'll have an outbreak of citizens taking the law into their own hands. It's the only explanation I can come up with for charging the poor guy. Considering where his shop is, which is a very busy area of the city, I'm sure that kind of theft happens a lot. Maybe the cops are afraid that all the shop keepers around there will start wantonly kidnapping anyone who even looks like they might steal something! I really hope Chen's case gets dismissed. |
10-23-2009, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TBrett Yeah, it's a weird one, to be sure. According to the news, because he seized the guy after he had committed the crime, Chen was considered to be breaking the law. I think it's ridiculous, but I'm guessing the authorities are afraid that if they don't at least put him through a reasonable amount of court-induced hassle, they'll have an outbreak of citizens taking the law into their own hands. It's the only explanation I can come up with for charging the poor guy. Considering where his shop is, which is a very busy area of the city, I'm sure that kind of theft happens a lot. Maybe the cops are afraid that all the shop keepers around there will start wantonly kidnapping anyone who even looks like they might steal something! I really hope Chen's case gets dismissed. | somebody has to start doing it.....the cops here have been out of the crime fighting biz for a long time....they do find time to send the swat team after kids with bb guns and film sets tho....
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10-24-2009, 09:33 AM
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10-24-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious Welcome to Canada. I love this country, but our justice system is absurd. It is lenient to the point of being laughable. | Interesting, as Canada has only 11% of the violent crime and 16% of the property crime rates per capita compared to the USA. Our incarceration rate is much lower as well (obviously). I wouldn't want to emulate a US style Justice system...
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10-24-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bebop1 Interesting, as Canada has only 11% of the violent crime and 16% of the property crime rates per capita compared to the USA. Our incarceration rate is much lower as well (obviously). I wouldn't want to emulate a US style Justice system... | The United States has not had a "Justice" system for a very, very, long time.
We have a "Legal" system.
IMHO |
10-24-2009, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bebop1 Interesting, as Canada has only 11% of the violent crime and 16% of the property crime rates per capita compared to the USA. Our incarceration rate is much lower as well (obviously). I wouldn't want to emulate a US style Justice system... | the crime rate is much higher......property crimes go unreported here because the law does nothing to offenders...unless you need an incident number for an insurance claim why bother.......a higher incarceration rate for violent and property crime is exactly what we need....instead of dopers,who occupy most of the prison cells here......
the amount of money spent on drug interdiction, prosecution,and prison for dopers would afford us much safer streets....
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10-24-2009, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve The United States has not had a "Justice" system for a very, very, long time.
We have a "Legal" system.
IMHO | +1
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10-25-2009, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Campbell the crime rate is much higher......property crimes go unreported here because the law does nothing to offenders...unless you need an incident number for an insurance claim why bother.......a higher incarceration rate for violent and property crime is exactly what we need....instead of dopers,who occupy most of the prison cells here......
the amount of money spent on drug interdiction, prosecution,and prison for dopers would afford us much safer streets.... | You live in Winnipeg, that is different. It is the most violent city in Canada (or did Regina take that title this year?)
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10-25-2009, 08:12 PM
|  | The Lowdown Diggler | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA | | You all saw Mark Failson's Windows 98 Google Canada thread. Yet you're all acting surprised?  |
10-25-2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar You all saw Mark Failson's Windows 98 Google Canada thread. Yet you're all acting surprised? | it's only got bad in the last few years....gangs just started getting out of hand.....
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