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08-14-2010, 04:07 AM
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08-14-2010, 04:19 AM
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But yeah, worrying stuff...
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08-14-2010, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry The father's called James Brown
But yeah, worrying stuff... |
I'm sure he broke out in a COLD SWEAT HAAAAA!!!!!HIT ME!!!!   | 
08-14-2010, 04:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tennessee | | | Well, she was 15 and it was a continental flight. They usually don't Id you for such occasions. Plus he had cash in hand. And could've looked like and adult, or at least like a 16-18 year old.
I don't really see what the issue is about them not asking any questions. Children fly all the time. I know tons of people my age that were allowed to fly alone for senior trips, or for vacations at 15, 16, 17.
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08-14-2010, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jp58 Well, he was 15 and it was a continental flight. They usually don't Id you for such occasions. Plus he had cash in hand. And could've looked like and adult, or at least like a 16-18 year old.
I don't really see what the issue is about them not asking any questions. Children fly all the time. I know tons of people my age that were allowed to fly alone for senior trips, or for vacations at 15, 16, 17. | I just wanted to fly,” 15-year-old Bridget Brown, told WJXX-TV in Jacksonville. “I had the money.” Not that it matters but I think Bridget is a girls name | 
08-14-2010, 05:17 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | I don't see the issue. Everything seems to have been done legally. Is it so frustrating for you that people (even kids) are allowed to travel within your country? | 
08-14-2010, 05:18 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | what were they supposed to ask? i don' think its the airline's responsibility, or the cab driver's, or anyone else's, to parent these kids. where were the parents? (rhetorical question, of course they had a good excuse no doubt).
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08-14-2010, 05:22 AM
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In an age of heightened security and terrorism threats, some are concerned that three youngsters could so easily board an airline without parental consent.
| how in the world does any of that make any logical sense whatsoever? because they're kids, they're what? gonna blow up the plane easier? 
and why was their airfare refunded?
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08-14-2010, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JacoLesFlea I just wanted to fly,” 15-year-old Bridget Brown, told WJXX-TV in Jacksonville. “I had the money.” Not that it matters but I think Bridget is a girls name | I typo'ed...
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08-14-2010, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by john turner what were they supposed to ask? i don' think its the airline's responsibility, or the cab driver's, or anyone else's, to parent these kids. where were the parents? (rhetorical question, of course they had a good excuse no doubt). | Maybe next time they should ask for a permission slip signed by their mommy. Seriously, they're making a mountain out of a molehill.
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08-14-2010, 06:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere in Canada | | | This is stupid. Specifically I have a cousin who I know had been on flights on his own around this age.
There's no reason this should arise any panic. The issue here is how the parents could not have noticed their children gone long enough to take a flight. Don't you at least check on your kids once in awhile?
And why do they need cellphones? Honestly I don't see a need for kids that age to have cell phones. (the 15 year old maybe (though I wouldnt say so, I'm pretty sure this is quite frequent) but they spoke of cell phones in the plural, so the 13 year old at least had one too. Unnecessary)
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08-14-2010, 06:27 AM
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08-14-2010, 06:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota | | | Here is my take on it...first off when ever I bought a ticket I had to show id...here is what I think happend: 15 year old calls for a taxi to take them to airport...when is the last time a taxi driver asked you for id? so no problem there. She goes to ticket counter buys tickets...and is told by the ticket seller they better hurry or they will miss there flight while running to their departure gate ticket counter radios security and tells them they have three kids trying to catch a flight...we sure dont want them to miss it and have there parents freaking out..just the basic shoes off any metal objects thru the xray...get them on that plane!!!! | 
08-14-2010, 06:41 AM
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“The moral of the story is, at least in other parts of the world, young people are engaged in weapons, planting bombs, testing security,” he said. “The point is terrorist groups, insurgent groups, other kinds of transnational groups, what have you, they read the papers, they watch TV, they look at the security lapses. And they take that information as they develop their own terrorist operations and anti-government operations.”
| This is the biggest heap of bull **** I have ever read.
"Oh look, the press are here; Terrorists! Bombs! Security Threat!"
How is that even remotely related to the subject? I cannot even see a link between the two.
It seems that anything to do with air travel these days has to mention terrorism.
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08-14-2010, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by john turner i love this :
how in the world does any of that make any logical sense whatsoever? because they're kids, they're what? gonna blow up the plane easier?  | Quote:
Richard Bloom, an aviation security expert at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, said while this incident amounted to a childhood jaunt, it highlights legitimate safety implications.
“The moral of the story is, at least in other parts of the world, young people are engaged in weapons, planting bombs, testing security,” he said. “The point is terrorist groups, insurgent groups, other kinds of transnational groups, what have you, they read the papers, they watch TV, they look at the security lapses. And they take that information as they develop their own terrorist operations and anti-government operations.”
| Because of crap like this.
My mom prolly would have beaten me senseless, but applauded me later for going on an adventure. Yeah, I remember a time when we used to not get in trouble for being kids. Granted these kids did something that they should never have done, I for one applaud them for going on a plane trip to the one place they wanted to go instead of doing drugs or getting pregnant or something else to kill their time.
Parents need to spend more time with their kids and go on more "adventures" so they can learn. Show em the world or they will find out for themselves, often times making the wrong decisions. | 
08-14-2010, 06:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Atkinson, WI | | | Security checked them when they were there. What is the big damn deal? Why is it the airlines' supposed responsibility to parent these people's children?
I attended a private high school, and we had students from all over the country. I knew kids 14 years old who flew by themselves. I guess in the pre-9/11 world, people didn't overreact to such things, though.
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08-14-2010, 07:47 AM
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I believe its a cultural norm or something.If a 15 year old were to ask a plane ticket,they'd be asked for their parents etc. to make sure they're safe.It's a crazy world man,way too crazy for 15 year old kids...
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08-14-2010, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by invader3k Security checked them when they were there. What is the big damn deal? Why is it the airlines' supposed responsibility to parent these people's children? | Obviously, first and foremost, the parents should be held responsible for this. But even if it's not the airlines' "legal" duty, common sense says they should've asked the kids if they were being accompanied by adults. Quote:
Originally Posted by invader3k I guess in the pre-9/11 world, people didn't overreact to such things, though. | I agree. The overreaction is perhaps more prominent in the USA, I suppose.
As others note, kids flying alone is not a big deal as of itself. I feel parental consent should be necessary, though. Back in 1999, my cousin flew from Bangkok to India alone when he was 9.
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08-14-2010, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by champbassist Obviously, first and foremost, the parents should be held responsible for this. But even if it's not the airlines' "legal" duty, common sense says they should've asked the kids if they were being accompanied by adults.
I agree. The overreaction is perhaps more prominent in the USA, I suppose. Back in 1999, my cousin flew from Bangkok to India alone when he was 9. | I've flow alone three times as a minor, 10, 13 and 15. No one ever asked me any questions...
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08-14-2010, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jp58 I've flow alone three times as a minor, 10, 13 and 15. No one ever asked me any questions... | Did you get tickets yourself? Was there no parental consent involved at all? If so, that's pretty interesting!
I only said what I feel is common sense. Maybe common sense varies from nation to nation 
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