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Old 10-19-2008, 01:33 PM
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I am 19 years old. I watch the interviews. I see the slander. I understand their views. I couldn't care less, honestly. I have problems with government views in general and I feel that the president will not effect my life as an individual honestly. It's like when everybody made a big deal about the new pope. I told a teacher that it doesn't effect me as to who they choose, and they flipped out on me!

I ordered a pizza Friday at work and when I went to pick it up, they asked me who I would vote for. I told them that I was not going to vote and they couldn't have been more rude about it. It's just getting old fast. "Well you are just a teenager, so you don't know." You know what? **** you. Stupid old lady telling me that I'm stupid because I don't want to vote? America has some BIG problems.

Edit: The point of this was me just relieving and asking who else is sick of all the garbage that gets passed through their lives concerning the subject.

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If you think the role of president doesn't affect the state of our country where have you been the past 8 years?

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If you think the role of president doesn't affect the state of our country where have you been the past 8 years?

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I look more at the past 2 years... THAT'S when it really went downhill.
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I am 19 years old. I watch the interviews. I see the slander. I understand their views. I couldn't care less, honestly. I have problems with government views in general and I feel that the president will not effect my life as an individual honestly. It's like when everybody made a big deal about the new pope. I told a teacher that it doesn't effect me as to who they choose, and they flipped out on me!

I ordered a pizza Friday at work and when I went to pick it up, they asked me who I would vote for. I told them that I was not going to vote and they couldn't have been more rude about it. It's just getting old fast. "Well you are just a teenager, so you don't know." You know what? **** you. Stupid old lady telling me that I'm stupid because I don't want to vote? America has some BIG problems.

Edit: The point of this was me just relieving and asking who else is sick of all the garbage that gets passed through their lives concerning the subject.
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If you think the role of president doesn't affect the state of our country where have you been the past 8 years?

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I'm sorry, can you show me where i said that it didnt affect the state of our country?
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It's like when everybody made a big deal about the new pope. I told a teacher that it doesn't effect me as to who they choose, and they flipped out on me!

Here.
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yeah, and i brought up the point previous that it doesn't affect me as a person, sorry for the confusion.


Edit: and i said thats about the pope, nothing about bush and the past 8 years.
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Don't vote. If you don't care enough about government to do the hard work of being well informed (and that's your right) then the people who are preaching at you about some kind of patriotic duty you have to stand in a booth and randomly pick names of people whom you know nothing about are just being obnoxious.
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I agree that people are making this whole mess a Ford vs. Chevy type of debate instead of focusing on issues.
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You guys ruined my thread.
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You guys ruined my thread.
I'll try and get back on topic. I agree that there really aren't any good choices right now. It really sucks. Luckily, where I live there are some other party choices on the ballot. I am hoping that enough people decide that there ARE other choices and start moving that direction. A lot of people will say that that is wasting your ballot, but if my opinion is expressed, it's not a waste.

With me, the choice for the next 2-4 years will affect me, but to a lesser degree than a lot of others. That said, I do care what happens, I just know that all I can do is plug away doing what I can do and forget everyone else trying to sway you on to their bandwagon.
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Question who benefits from your passivity.
Ask that to ghandi.

Again, this thread was just asking who else is tired of people cramming views down your throat, not an argument about government and politics.
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politics do affect your life very much. maybe you don't see it because you are 19 and have other things on your mind. this stuff is very real though, so please inform yourself, (choose some topics that are relevant to you if you don't want to know everything about the candidates) make your choice, go to the damn both and make a cross. it's not that hard.

p.s some poeple have died to get the right to vote, i guess people only value what they don't have.
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Question who benefits from your passivity.

Who benefits when people who don't care about government policy are guilt-tripped into the voting booth where their choices are necessarily made out of ignorance of the issues and of the candidates. We might as well put candidate names on a big wheel and give it a spin to see who wins.
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Well, all I can say is that if you don't vote you can't complain. If you don't want any of the candidates spoil the ballot paper.
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politics do affect your life very much. maybe you don't see it because you are 19 and have other things on your mind. this stuff is very real though, so please inform yourself, (choose some topics that are relevant to you if you don't want to know everything about the candidates) make your choice, go to the damn both and make a cross. it's not that hard.

p.s some poeple have died to get the right to vote, i guess people only value what they don't have.
people died for my right to vote? WOAH!!

Does everybody hear this?

Hey guys, look at this!

This should be on the new!


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anyways, quit cramming it down my throat.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:01 PM
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Ask that to ghandi.

Again, this thread was just asking who else is tired of people cramming views down your throat, not an argument about government and politics.
Your point is noted. Mine still applies.
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Well, all I can say is that if you don't vote you can't complain.
i dont agree with that at all. just because i dont vote means i cant disagree with somebody's views and decisions? that means that you cant tell me you disagree with one of the people running when they say something you dislike.
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