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05-14-2008, 09:14 AM
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yeah, I know, heard that one before
but it looks for real this time. pretty cool (literally  ), I can't wait for the new research! but I have a feeling it'll just conclusively prove not much at all. ah well.
anyone not gonna sleep easy tonight?  my physics teacher has ex-colleagues who work there now, and apparently they had a problem with one of the support stands for one of the magnets, or something along those lines... and a simple balance of weight problem slipped through the design process, AND 4 engineering safety reports! our future is in their hands
edit: they won't actually be doing the awesome stuff until later on this year, so I wouldn't take out a second mortgage just yet!
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05-14-2008, 09:57 AM
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It would be cool if it serves as the point to which people can start time-travelling back to - unless they bring monsters with them. | 
05-14-2008, 02:26 PM
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05-14-2008, 02:36 PM
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05-14-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean S UAC is secretly funding it. Watch out for the Demons. | I have my BFG laying around somewhere, so I am fine.
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05-14-2008, 08:52 PM
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and as far as time travel goes... i've come up with the notion that even if its physically possible to send a particle back in time, its not psychologically possible... just watch the first back to the future and read the hitchhikers books and you;ll understand what i mean
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05-14-2008, 08:53 PM
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05-14-2008, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Barker cern's website is awful. where did you hear about this? i can't find information easily. | I would also like to find a link to this.
Edit: nvm
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05-15-2008, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iamlowsound What are you guys talking about? Linkage?
lowsound | The Large Hadron Colider at Cern was to be turned on last night. | 
05-15-2008, 02:22 AM
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The countdown timer was set to the 15th of May because there was no definite time given for the actual activation, recent events show that CERN wont be dividing by zero until much later on in the year, so now the countdown timer will be reset again and will be continually tweaked to go by the latest info that CERN are releasing.
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05-15-2008, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsal | Bah, that sucks.  | 
05-15-2008, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripper and as far as time travel goes... i've come up with the notion that even if its physically possible to send a particle back in time, its not psychologically possible... just watch the first back to the future and read the hitchhikers books and you;ll understand what i mean | yeah, the problem with quantum physics is, by its very nature, so much of it is speculation - and no matter how much we think about it, we can't *prove* anything.
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Originally Posted by Matt_W; Bah, that sucks.  | yeah... but look on the bright side. 53 more days of guaranteed existance 
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05-15-2008, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Techmonkey yeah, the problem with quantum physics is, by its very nature, so much of it is speculation - and no matter how much we think about it, we can't *prove* anything. |  | 
05-15-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsal | Not to stray from the topic? but that quote by Rockwell just hit me at the right time. Thanks. | 
05-15-2008, 01:09 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: berkeley, ca | | i've been waiting for the LHC to become operational for about five years now, so it's remarkable that it'll start running some experiments by the end of this year. if there ever were such a thing as a good time to get into high energy theory, now would be it.  | 
05-15-2008, 01:13 PM
|  | NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN! | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada | | I'm sorry, but I have no idea what's going on still. I gather there's something about physics, but beyond that, I'm totally in the dark, especially with all of the acronyms being thrown around.
Could someone explain it in more layman terms, please?  | 
05-15-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Lesser I'm sorry, but I have no idea what's going on still. I gather there's something about physics, but beyond that, I'm totally in the dark, especially with all of the acronyms being thrown around.
Could someone explain it in more layman terms, please?  | i'll do the best that i can...
an international team of scientists have constructed the world's largest particle accelerator, which stretches between france and switzerland. the accelerator is a large ring with a diameter of a few kilometers--it's big!
the accelerator can endow particles such as protons and neutrons with extremely high energies--essentially the speed of light, within a small fraction of a percent. when particles like protons and neutrons, called "hadrons," collide, it's really, really messy. that's because hadrons are made up of constituent particles called "quarks" and "gluons." when there is a hadron-hadron collision, the result is a "jet" of particles, largely produced from the energy of the collision itself. (from that famous equation of einstein, mass can be created from energy, even just the energy released in a collision.)
the idea is that we'll now be able to use these unreached energies to generate as-yet unseen particles that'll tell us more about what's goin' on in this crazy universe of ours.
the "lhc" stands for "large hadron collider." it's large, and it collides hadrons. | 
05-15-2008, 01:40 PM
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05-15-2008, 01:52 PM
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05-15-2008, 02:03 PM
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