Low IQ? No sex for you.

[bassrique]

It seems a court in the U.K. has barred an intellectually challenged man from having sexual relations. I first saw this in the Daily Mail and didn't believe it, so I googled and the story looks legit.

The 41 year-old had been in a relationship with a man whom he lived with and told officials “it would make me feel happy” for it to continue.

But his local council decided his “vigorous sex drive” was inappropriate and that with an IQ of 48 and a “moderate” learning disability, he did not understand what he was doing.

A psychiatrist involved in the case even tried to prevent the man being given sex education, on the grounds that it would leave him “confused”.

Mr Justice Mostyn said the case was “legally, intellectually and morally” complex as sex is “one of the most basic human functions” and the court must “tread especially carefully” when the state tries to curtail it.

But he agreed that the man, known only as Alan, should not be allowed to have sex with anyone on the grounds that he did not have the mental capacity to understand the health risks associated with his actions.

More:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...aving-sex.html

I think there's more than meets the eye here. I wonder what.

[champbassist]

The ruling is obviously sexist. Blondes everywhere are allowed (or shall I encouraged) to have sex

[jonathan_matos5]

meh, i generally agree that stupid people shouldn't procreate.
however the only thing i can do about that is avoid relationships with people i find stupid.
in return people that find me stupid should do the same.

[MakiSupaStar]

[sloasdaylight]

So begins the Eugenics wars. Look out for Khan.

[Kwesi]

I'm sure all he needs is a good teacher .

[MakiSupaStar]

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by sloasdaylight

So begins the Eugenics wars. Look out for Khan.

http://khaaaaaaan.ytmnd.com/

[Kwesi]

Originally Posted by sloasdaylight

So begins the Eugenics wars. Look out for Khan.

Originally Posted by jonathan_matos5

http://khaaaaaaan.ytmnd.com/

Khan? Would anyone care to enlighten me?

[hbarcat]

I read the article and it explains a bit more about the court's reasoning. Since "Alan" has an IQ of 48 and isn't capable of living independently he is legally a ward of the State and the courts have the responsibility to act to protect his interests including health and safety.

This isn't unusual that restrictions are placed on the mentally incompetent that limits their behavior. They might be prohibited from drinking alcohol, for example, or they may be required to keep certain hours in their group home or have to work at a job determined by a court appointed guardian. Often, such a guardian may prevent the ward from being in contact with particular people if having a relationship might be considered potentially harmful. They often do prevent sexual relationships with others on the grounds that the mentally incompetent person isn't able to legally consent to sex. It does happen that people are prosecuted for sexual assault or rape after having sexual relations with mentally handicapped adults.

In the U.S., the courts tend to be very cautious about treading too heavily on the rights of the mentally incompetent, but it is a necessary duty for the courts to protect people who can't make decisions for themselves from their own lack of judgment.

[nutdog]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

Khan? Would anyone care to enlighten me?

In the original Star Trek series Khan (Ricardo Montelban) is the leader of a group of genetically bred super humans. They are eventually placed on a planet to start a new civilization. They turn it into Fantasy Island where people can come and live out their dreams with a cute midget. Later, Khan reappears in a movie after Fantasy Island is ruined due to global warming. Or climate change. Or something.

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by nutdog

In the original Star Trek series Khan (Ricardo Montelban) is the leader of a group of genetically bred super humans. They are eventually placed on a planet to start a new civilization. They turn it into Fantasy Island where people can come and live out their dreams with a cute midget. Later, Khan reappears in a movie after Fantasy Island is ruined due to global warming. Or climate change. Or something.

[sloasdaylight]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

Khan? Would anyone care to enlighten me?

[johndough247]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

Khan? Would anyone care to enlighten me?

I'm not that older than you, but dang you showing your age! lol

[Kwesi]

Lol, I'm just not getting this Khan thing or how it applies to the article. Maybe it's because I never liked Star Trek? Who knows ?

[dinghy]

The 'not understanding the risks associated' reason is ******** - do they not let the developmentally disabled ever smoke cigarettes, which are much more likely to be the death of you? Is that just as illegal?

[jonathan_matos5]

Originally Posted by Kwesi

Lol, I'm just not getting this Khan thing or how it applies to the article. Maybe it's because I never liked Star Trek? Who knows ?

here is a nerdy web page to help you sort out the relevance.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Eugenics_wars

[sandmangeck]

50-70 - Mild mental retardation.....So the dude is a dash under the lowest form of mental retardation, and they take away one of his joys? Weak. They might as well ban guns too......oops. too late.

[bassrique]

Originally Posted by hbarcat

I read the article and it explains a bit more about the court's reasoning. Since "Alan" has an IQ of 48 and isn't capable of living independently he is legally a ward of the State and the courts have the responsibility to act to protect his interests including health and safety.

This isn't unusual that restrictions are placed on the mentally incompetent that limits their behavior. They might be prohibited from drinking alcohol, for example, or they may be required to keep certain hours in their group home or have to work at a job determined by a court appointed guardian. Often, such a guardian may prevent the ward from being in contact with particular people if having a relationship might be considered potentially harmful. They often do prevent sexual relationships with others on the grounds that the mentally incompetent person isn't able to legally consent to sex. It does happen that people are prosecuted for sexual assault or rape after having sexual relations with mentally handicapped adults.

In the U.S., the courts tend to be very cautious about treading too heavily on the rights of the mentally incompetent, but it is a necessary duty for the courts to protect people who can't make decisions for themselves from their own lack of judgment.

Do you agree with that [emphasized] idea?

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I'm curious as to who the central character of this story is having relations with and what those circumstances are.

I also ponder if there wasn't any seriously warped activities that were discovered.

[bassrique]

Eugenics? It's gay sex we're talking about here.