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06-21-2009, 09:45 PM
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I read a psychology book once and it brushed out a topic on bass players having a common thread on being messy.
I just wished that I had the book in front of me so that I would reiterate the text.
He more or less said bass players had a "different" way or organizing. And to make this topic more educational, he also pointed out on a study that was done on a violinist that had played for over 30 years. His brain was scanned for activity as he played the violin. It turns out that over 40% of the right side of his brain is responsible for controlling just is left hand. REMARKABLE!!
I WILL GET THE ORIGINAL TEXT SO THAT I DON'T BLABBER ON WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. Nobody really wants to identify themselves as messy. 
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06-21-2009, 09:47 PM
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06-21-2009, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by camello
I WILL GET THE ORIGINAL TEXT SO THAT I DON'T BLABBER ON WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. Nobody really wants to identify themselves as messy.  | I was reading another post and it reminded me of that book. I'll get it right in the morning.
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06-21-2009, 10:03 PM
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06-21-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by camello I WILL GET THE ORIGINAL TEXT SO THAT I DON'T BLABBER ON WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. Nobody really wants to identify themselves as messy.  | You didn't happen to misplace the relevant texts, did you? 
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06-22-2009, 03:53 AM
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Music and Personality. (Pardon some of the spelling I will be typing as I read)
Wilson(1994) reports studies by Glasgow, Little, Zuckerman, Davies, Konecni, and others begin to build a profile of how people with different personalites respond differently to varous aspects of music. Among the finding are these:
-People who score "conservative" on personality test tend to prefer music that is simpler and more familiar; "liberals" tend to find greater pleasure in more complex and unfamiliar music.
-People who score high on "sensation seeking" tend to prefer more complex and unfamiliar music.
IN a survey condcted by G. D. Wilson in 1984 several interesting associations between singers' voices and theri personalites emerged (Wilson, 1994, pp 137ff):
-The higher the voice, the greater the singer's emotinality.
-The higher the voice, the more stage fright the variability the singer has from performance to performance.
-Basses have higher testosterone and along with it moe affairs and greater ambition.
-Tenors miss the most cues, sopranos the fewest.
-Compared with singers, nonsigers are less extraverted, less conceited, more intelligent, more faighful, and more considerate.
Instumental musicians have been the subjectof several studies by Kemp, Piparek, Eysenck, Davies, Wills, Cooper, and Marchant-Haycos. Wilson(1994). pp176ff): summarizes these studies:
-Instrumentalists are more introverted and more anxious thatn nonmusicians.
- Bass players are more emotionally stable, more extraverted, less accommodating, and less focused than other instrumentalist
Jazz musicians are more emotionally reative, higher in originality, less accomodating, and less diciplined thatn other instrumentalists.
Excerpt from the book: The Brain by Pierce J. Howard. Pgs.256-257 
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06-22-2009, 04:15 AM
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06-22-2009, 06:52 AM
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06-22-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by camello -Basses have higher testosterone and along with it more affairs and greater ambition. | Apparently we're more manly than guitarists. according to this part. Quote:
Originally Posted by camello -Bass players are more emotionally stable, more extraverted, less accommodating, and less focused than other instrumentalist
Jazz musicians are more emotionally reative, higher in originality, less accomodating, and less diciplined thatn other instrumentalists. | We're the sane people in our band, very level headed and we're not really welcoming as well as focused on our part rather than the others in our groups.
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06-22-2009, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Muusers What do they mean with less focused? | They mean that we as bass players are more...ooh a squirrel! | 
06-22-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver They mean that we as bass players are more...ooh a squirrel! | This
I thought of the simpsons where either homer goes chasing that dog with a ham outside (I think?), or the, woah, a blue car!
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06-22-2009, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AndrewSixx07032 Apparently we're more manly than guitarists. according to this part.
| i think they meant basses as in singers that sing bass instead of tenor, etc etc
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06-22-2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver They mean that we as bass players are more...ooh a squirrel! | I tried to read this sentence like five times, but halfway through I got distracted by this adorable squirrel! | 
06-22-2009, 02:49 PM
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"Jazz musicians are more emotionally reative..."
And evidently both are spelling-challenged.  (Hey, it's hard to pass up the opportunity.)
However, most of the bass players I know are the most organized and methodical people in the band...not the messiest. And we buy beers occasionally!
So there. 
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06-22-2009, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JNowiski i think they meant basses as in singers that sing bass instead of tenor, etc etc | I dont know, it says instrumentalist musicians..
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06-22-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by makanudo I dont know, it says instrumentalist musicians.. | Quote:
Originally Posted by camello IN a survey condcted by G. D. Wilson in 1984 several interesting associations between singers' voices and theri personalites emerged (Wilson, 1994, pp 137ff):
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-Basses have higher testosterone and along with it moe affairs and greater ambition. | The testosterone part is referring to bass singers.
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06-22-2009, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by camello -People who score "conservative" on personality test tend to prefer music that is simpler and more familiar; "liberals" tend to find greater pleasure in more complex and unfamiliar music.
-People who score high on "sensation seeking" tend to prefer more complex and unfamiliar music. | So... "conservative" = Toby Keith; "liberal" = The Flaming Lips?
Yeah...I can see that. Quote:
Originally Posted by camello -IN a survey condcted by G. D. Wilson in 1984 several interesting associations between singers' voices and theri personalites emerged (Wilson, 1994, pp 137ff):
-Basses have higher testosterone and along with it moe affairs and greater ambition. | Wouldn't a bass singer's lower voice be the result of longer vocal cords, caused by higher amounts of testosterone? That really needed researched? Quote:
Originally Posted by camello -Compared with singers, nonsigers are less extraverted, less conceited, more intelligent, more faighful, and more considerate. | So, compared to singers, bass players are not obnoxious, loud-mouthed, idiotic a-holes who spend most of their time in front of a mirror? Already knew that. Quote:
Originally Posted by camello Instumental musicians have been the subjectof several studies by Kemp, Piparek, Eysenck, Davies, Wills, Cooper, and Marchant-Haycos. Wilson(1994). pp176ff): summarizes these studies:
-Bass players are more emotionally stable, more extraverted, less accommodating, and less focused than other instrumentalist | MORE emotionally stable? Hmm... Jamerson...Jaco... Quote:
Originally Posted by camello Jazz musicians are more emotionally reative, | Agreed Quote:
Originally Posted by camello higher in originality, | Not necessarily... Quote:
Originally Posted by camello less accomodating, | Agree, to a point. I think being less accomodating is often a combination of ego ("I'm a jazz musician, so I'm better than you!") and the final item... Quote:
Originally Posted by camello ...less diciplined thatn other instrumentalists. | Jazz takes quite a bit of discipline to master, imho.
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06-22-2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkReaver They mean that we as bass players are more...ooh a squirrel! | ...aaaaaannnnnddd sigged!!!
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Originally Posted by makanudo I dont know, it says instrumentalist musicians.. | but it said that after the part about testosterone and stuff, when they were talking about that they were talking about singers. either way i agree we're more manly. lol
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