Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Off Topic [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Off Topic [BG] Non-music-related discussion and chat


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-11-2008, 07:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ventura County
Send a message via AIM to AlphaMale
Metallica once again trying to control the exchange of information

Sign in to disble this ad
"Given all that Metallica has done, said, and been through in the last 20 years, what could they still do that would lead bloggers to ask, "What the hell is wrong with Metallica?" In this case, the answer is fairly pedestrian but still dumb: censor bloggers.
Here's the scenario: internationally known heavy metal band with long history in the business invites music critics in London to listen to six tracks off the band's forthcoming album. Those critics then write reviews based on what they've heard. Despite the total lack of any non-disclosure agreements and the fact that the band must have known what it was doing, its management then contacted the blogs in question and asked them to take down the reviews.

Actually, "asked" may be a polite way of putting it. The music blog Blinded by the Hype contacted The Quietus, one of the blogs that had run a review, wondering what had happened to the piece. The answer, from editor Luke Turner, was clear. "The Quietus kept our article up the longest and, as no nondisclosure agreement had been signed," he wrote, "[we were] not prepared to remove it merely due to the demands of Metallica's management. We only removed the article earlier today to protect the professional interests of the writer concerned."

Metallica's management and PR team knew who the (anonymous) writer of the piece was, as they invited him; if they chose to do so, they could probably make his livelihood more difficult to earn in the future. The Quietus decided to pull the review and replace it with a cheeky note and an old interview with the band. Wired's Listening Post blog, which has followed the story, notes that this isn't just about being jerks; management claims that the tracks in question were a rough mix that weren't ready for prime time, which perfectly explains why they invited journalists to come hear them.

Metallica has acquired a reputation for hating the Internet, which isn't really true—the band does have a website and it did finally come to iTunes—but the band invited derision from fans with its stance against Napster back in the day. (As a metal band, Metallica of course has long stood up for the principles of fair play, buying your music at retail prices, and not being a rebel.)

Surely, the band's handlers know that these sorts of things have long shelf lives, as evidenced in the new press coverage (Metallica's stance against Napster was mentioned every time), so it's pretty mysterious why they would continue to perpetuate the image of Metallica as the cranky curmudgeons of pre-Internet rock.

...unless this is all a genius move to keep Metallica's name in the news and drum up buzz for a new album that I, for one, had no idea was even in the works.
"




http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...our-music.html


Also on the page:
Related Stories

* Metallica may be starring in the next Guitar Hero title
* A brave new world: the music biz at the dawn of 2008
* Indie labels "revolting" against eMusic's low prices?
* Indie music, meet telco behemoth: eMusic partners with AT&T
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyondhairy View Post
next chick who asks me to take her to starbucks is unzipping her pants first
  #2  
Old 06-11-2008, 09:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edinboro, PA
Send a message via AIM to Matt Till
I would really really like it if Metallica disappeared forever.
__________________
Mediocre Bassist Club Member #4
  #3  
Old 06-11-2008, 09:46 PM
fdeck's Avatar
Registered User

Maker of HPF-Pre upright bass preamp
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Madison WI
Supporting Member
Maybe "blogger censorship metal" could become the next sub-sub-genre of metal.
__________________
DIY gear articles and HPF-Pre
  #4  
Old 06-11-2008, 09:49 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario Canada
Why weren't they as quick to censor reviews of St Anger?
  #5  
Old 06-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Joe Gress's Avatar
no really, smokemeth&hailsatan
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Pueblo, CO
Send a message via AIM to Joe Gress
Supporting Member
Shh, otherwise they might sue TB.
__________________
TB Resident Hophead

Having a bad day?
  #6  
Old 06-11-2008, 10:38 PM
GregC's Avatar
Johnny and Joe
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
GOLD Supporting Member
Ugh. Such wankers.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim C View Post
All these micro guys keep throwing a single 12AX7 behind the input jack with the marketing team shouting "has a tube; sounds like tubes".
LOG #143
  #7  
Old 06-11-2008, 11:16 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Auburn Nebraska
Send a message via MSN to Yngwie 4String
God I hate Metallica. The irony of all this is that the band gained its fame through people talking about them (Reviews) and people tape sharing (file sharing). Way to **** on the fans. I hate the people in this band, especially Lars and Hetfield.

"my lifestyle determines my death style." WORST METAL LYRIC EVER! except maybe "St Anger, hes bustin out, hes bustin out." God that was a horrible horrible cd.
  #8  
Old 06-12-2008, 12:39 AM
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: Karl Hoyt Basses
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: upstate NY
Quote:
God that was a horrible horrible cd.
Just think how silly you'd feel if you had a tattoo of it!
__________________
Viva Los Blancos!
http://www.casablancos.com

Quote:
"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them."
- Mark Twain
  #9  
Old 06-12-2008, 01:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Anyone read this?
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=600942
  #10  
Old 06-12-2008, 01:08 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edinboro, PA
Send a message via AIM to Matt Till
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeet View Post


Hilarious. The difference between blogs and Kerrang and Metal Hammer: Bloggers don't get paid... arguably by labels.


P.S. St. Anger is awful.
__________________
Mediocre Bassist Club Member #4
  #11  
Old 06-12-2008, 01:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Edinboro, PA
Send a message via AIM to Matt Till
P.S. St. Anger is terrible.
__________________
Mediocre Bassist Club Member #4
  #12  
Old 06-12-2008, 04:15 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Pacific Northwest
P.P.S. The last good album Metallica made, IMHO, was Puppets. Everything after that has declined more and more. And before someone attacks me, I did say IMHO.
__________________
Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
  #13  
Old 06-12-2008, 04:40 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Singapore
Send a message via MSN to ahkiatt
Major Metal will not be pleased to see this thread.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by john turner View Post
WIN.
  #14  
Old 06-12-2008, 04:44 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Send a message via MSN to ROON
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfatbass View Post
Just think how silly you'd feel if you had a tattoo of it!
Lets hope \MM/ doesn't see that.
__________________
-Josh
  #15  
Old 06-12-2008, 05:17 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland
Quote:
Originally Posted by GregC View Post
Ugh. Such wankers.
Agree'd
__________________
EB Musicman/Ibanez/Ampeg/Peavey/Marshall/Tech 21
  #16  
Old 06-12-2008, 05:44 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Bowling Green, Ohio
Send a message via MSN to bassist 4 life
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yngwie 4String View Post
God I hate Metallica. The irony of all this is that the band gained its fame through people talking about them (Reviews) and people tape sharing (file sharing). Way to **** on the fans. I hate the people in this band, especially Lars and Hetfield.

"my lifestyle determines my death style." WORST METAL LYRIC EVER! except maybe "St Anger, hes bustin out, hes bustin out." God that was a horrible horrible cd.
didnt yngwie ban that guy off of youtube, that guy who made funny voice-overs on yngwies vids because they showed a bit of his instructional dvds?
  #17  
Old 06-12-2008, 06:04 AM
Darkstrike's Avatar
Drunk on power... and beer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland.
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by bassist 4 life View Post
didnt yngwie ban that guy off of youtube, that guy who made funny voice-overs on yngwies vids because they showed a bit of his instructional dvds?
Yeah, he went crazy over it IIRC.
__________________
The winners are crying and the losers are dancing.
  #18  
Old 06-12-2008, 06:36 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
it sounds like it may have been management messing things up or they are trying to do damage control.

it is not uncommon to have reviewers sign an NDA (non-disclosure) where they can't publish before date X. Maybe they forgot to have them sign.

ahh well.

Lets hope that its better than st. anger, which shouldn't be too terribly difficult to accomplish.
  #19  
Old 06-12-2008, 07:01 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta
ugh, st anger....

i like all of them up to the black album....the rest are
__________________
-~=Joey=~-
Christian Praise & Worship Bassist Club Member #249
  #20  
Old 06-12-2008, 07:21 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bos, MA
rick rubin + rob trujillo = not even ulrich can screw that up.....i hope.

i wonder what it must be like to be a fantastic bass player - burton, newsted, but especially trujillo - with skillz for days, and having lars ulrich as your rhythm section pardner.

sounds like it's gonna be a good album , tho...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by D.M.N. View Post
that was like having a gorilla attempt to shove haggis down my ear canal.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:00 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.