The Mexican drug trade.........

[Relic]

Here's a video that kind of sums it up in my book.
I'm really really sick of reading about the stuff that goes on there. Mexico is a gorgeous country, the folks that I've met seem to be great people, so what the hell is going on there??

If this is what drug money from the US supports (to a large degree), count me out. Yeah, we could legalize which may break the back of the cartels or we could just stop buying the crap which would do the same but any way you look at it, there's no easy answer.

Video: Mexico teacher sings to schoolchildren during shoot-out - Telegraph

[knumbskull]

Poverty is what's going on there

[WalterBush]

Originally Posted by knumbskull

Poverty is what's going on there

There's a lot more to it than that. There are plenty of places in Mexico that don't look like a Christian Children's Fund ad, and they have problems with the drug cartels, too.

[knumbskull]

Originally Posted by WalterBush

There's a lot more to it than that. There are plenty of places in Mexico that don't look like a Christian Children's Fund ad, and they have problems with the drug cartels, too.

i do think it's a poverty issue. can you give some examples of other stuff contributing to it?

[MatticusMania]

I was recently in El Paso, one of the largest border towns there is, which also butts up nicely to Juarez.

Not one dead body, and NOBODY asked me if I wanted to buy some weed (bummer!).
Id say my funds are certainly not going to the cause. All the herb I buy is homegrown in Southern/Central Cali.

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by Relic

If this is what drug money from the US supports (to a large degree), count me out.

Count you out of what?

-Mike

[MatticusMania]

He's going to stop buying cocaine and start curing & distributing locally.

I think thats what Relic meant.

[Relic]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

He's going to stop buying cocaine and start curing & distributing locally.

I think thats what Relic meant.

Yes, that and guns!

[Relic]

Originally Posted by knumbskull

i do think it's a poverty issue. can you give some examples of other stuff contributing to it?

Poverty may play a part but it 'aint the whole cause.
It's a little bit of many things I personally think.

[macaroni tony]

This is just awful.

I'd like to hear from anyone who lives in the area where the drug violence has been going on. Do we have any eyes on the ground on TB?

I'd like to know what factors contribute to it as well...not much of anything I could do about it, but I'd like to be enlightened to what's going on just south of me

[MJ5150]

Originally Posted by macaroni tony

Do we have any eyes on the ground on TB?

I'd like to know what factors contribute to it as well...not much of anything I could do about it, but I'd like to be enlightened to what's going on just south of me

Then drive down there yourself and check it, SpankyPants style. Make it a day trip with the family.

-Mike

[macaroni tony]

Originally Posted by MJ5150

Then drive down there yourself and check it, SpankyPants style. Make it a day trip with the family.

-Mike

I'm not brave enough for that

[MatticusMania]

When I was in El Paso we went up the scenic drive, and I looked through some binoculars into Juarez for $0.25.
I combed the streets, and saw no dead bodies. No cartel gangs, and no head exploding with coke gushing out the neck. I was kinda disappointed.

1st pic, El Paso
2nd pic, Juarez

[Skitch it!]

I only became aware of the scale of the problem in Mexico a few months back, when the internal drug war was making news with horrific executions. Reading this, '$18 billion to $39 billion from the United States each year', is astounding. I presumed business was big, but not that big.

Mexican Drug War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Skitch it!

I only became aware of the scale of the problem in Mexico a few months back, when the internal drug war was making news with horrific executions. Reading this, '$18 billion to $39 billion from the United States each year', is astounding. I presumed business was big, but not that big.

Mexican Drug War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, it's very very big. Apparently this commenced with the downfall of Columbia being the main supplier, now it's gotten pretty bad. At this point the causalities directly related number around 35,000. Indirectly, who knows... bad stuff

[TheSuzie]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

All the herb I buy is homegrown in Southern/Central Cali.

I have seen several accounts stating that the cartels a doing a lot of production in the US using smuggled workers who they can control in many ways. Supposedly their operations are rapidly expanding. Of course, I have no way to verify those reports but it does make business sense to not have to cross the border with the goods.

S

[MatticusMania]

Well, I also happen to know the people who are growing it
100% Non-Cartel Guaranteed!

[TheSuzie]

Originally Posted by MatticusMania

Well, I also happen to know the people who are growing it
100% Non-Cartel Guaranteed!

More worried for those people. They are probably safe FTM if they are small operators but I bet the cartels will start to go after any serious competition. Cartels have no desire to compete, only to control by any means. Letting anyone else operate in their world is a sign of weakness.

[MatticusMania]

Maybe so, then again, the cartels could be focusing their efforts away from herb, since its legal for anyone in the state with a medicinal card to grow. Theres no competition when you can grow your own.

[allexcosta]

CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_...ing_operations