Must be the new Black

[JAUQO III-X]

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beaut...his-ok-525789/

[Dr. Cheese]

I don't get it. Why not hire a black model?

[LarryO]

Didn't Eddie Murphy get a free newspaper buy doing the opposite? I see things in ALL races that irritate me......and once again I have lost faith in mankind

[WalterBush]

They're French, and it's fashion. I don't expect sense out of them when it comes to this sort of thing.

[LarryO]

I got a kick out of this....hope you do too
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by LarryO

Didn't Eddie Murphy get a free newspaper buy doing the opposite? I see things in ALL races that irritate me......and once again I have lost faith in mankind

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10356/satu...-white-like-me

Funny sketch. For anyone who isn't aware, it's a bit of a takeoff on the book "Black Like Me" which is a product of it's times and thus somewhat dated but still worth reading.

Originally Posted by LarryO

I got a kick out of this....hope you do too
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Love that site.

[Mark Latimour]

I don't have a problem with the vogue shoot. It's sufficienly divorced from the things that make "blackface" so offensive that it's in a different league IMO. Fashion models are often given makeup to look like all different races including Asian and it's not an issue. Shoots also involve other primary colours (I've seen shoots done in blue makeup etc). Is anyone offfended by Chinese and Japanese women who wear white makeup in shoots?

[ehque]

Originally Posted by WalterBush

They're French, and it's fashion. I don't expect sense out of them when it comes to this sort of thing.

+1.

I think these things are really only offensive in America (due to their history, and only some people) and its really time they should just move on.

[CrispyDelicious]

Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

I don't have a problem with the vogue shoot. It's sufficienly divorced from the things that make "blackface" so offensive that it's in a different league IMO. Fashion models are often given makeup to look like all different races including Asian and it's not an issue. Shoots also involve other primary colours (I've seen shoots done in blue makeup etc). Is anyone offfended by Chinese and Japanese women who wear white makeup in shoots?

Thank you.

It's only offensive to those who let themselves be offended by it. The rest of us can move on and let the designers paint their models any colour they want, because, you know, fashion and colour are somewhat related.

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

I don't get it. Why not hire a black model?

Who knows? Maybe that girl was a personal friend of the designer, or had some other connection to him/her. Maybe she was hired because they thought she had the perfect body and face for the job, but wanted to see how she would look with a different skin tone. There's any number of reasons they could have chosen her. What matters is that they were experimenting with a european woman combined with a skin tone not found among genetic europeans. And the result was pretty hot, IMO. Does that make it racist? You could read into it any way you want - racist, or maybe complimentary to other races because they were adopting their skin tone, maybe? This can be analyzed a million times over, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and I'm inclined to think in this case, a white girl painted black for a fashion show is just a white girl painted black for a fashion show.

Offhand somewhat, since there seem to be an increasing number of threads regarding racial issues, why not start an official racial discussion thread? We could have an ongoing discussion and could (as should be done) discuss more than one news story at a time.

[IconBasser]

Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Offhand somewhat, since there seem to be an increasing number of threads regarding racial issues, why not start an official racial discussion thread? We could have an ongoing discussion and could (as should be done) discuss more than one news story at a time.

oh PLEASE no... people on here already pay WAAAAAY too much attention to racial angles on events even when there are no angles present.

the only way to stop racism is to stop pointing your finger at everything that moves and screaming "THAT'S RACIST!!!" such things only inspire backlash.

[Dr. Cheese]

Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Thank you.

It's only offensive to those who let themselves be offended by it. The rest of us can move on and let the designers paint their models any colour they want, because, you know, fashion and colour are somewhat related.



Who knows? Maybe that girl was a personal friend of the designer, or had some other connection to him/her. Maybe she was hired because they thought she had the perfect body and face for the job, but wanted to see how she would look with a different skin tone. There's any number of reasons they could have chosen her. What matters is that they were experimenting with a european woman combined with a skin tone not found among genetic europeans. And the result was pretty hot, IMO. Does that make it racist? You could read into it any way you want - racist, or maybe complimentary to other races because they were adopting their skin tone, maybe? This can be analyzed a million times over, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and I'm inclined to think in this case, a white girl painted black for a fashion show is just a white girl painted black for a fashion show.

Offhand somewhat, since there seem to be an increasing number of threads regarding racial issues, why not start an official racial discussion thread? We could have an ongoing discussion and could (as should be done) discuss more than one news story at a time.

I didn't say I was offended. I said I didn't get it. As Mark said, it was not some sort of idiotic blackface stunt.

[Dr_Funkdamental]

Originally Posted by IconBasser

the only way to stop racism is to stop pointing your finger at everything that moves and screaming "THAT'S RACIST!!!" such things only inspire backlash.

Wrong. You cant fix what you wont face. Problem is, most ppl cant talk about it without getting an attitude on either side or being truthful with themselves. The talk behind closed doors is hardly ever the same talk out in public. Most of the time, depending on the color of whos addressing, ppl already have a biased view before one word is spoken.

Who knows? Maybe that girl was a personal friend of the designer, or had some other connection to him/her. Maybe she was hired because they thought she had the perfect body and face for the job, but wanted to see how she would look with a different skin tone. There's any number of reasons they could have chosen her. What matters is that they were experimenting with a european woman combined with a skin tone not found among genetic europeans. And the result was pretty hot, IMO. Does that make it racist? You could read into it any way you want - racist, or maybe complimentary to other races because they were adopting their skin tone, maybe? This can be analyzed a million times over, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and I'm inclined to think in this case, a white girl painted black for a fashion show is just a white girl painted black for a fashion show

Im inclined to agree with this. Except I dont think the results were that hot lol.

[5StringBlues]

Originally Posted by CrispyDelicious

Who knows? Maybe that girl was a personal friend of the designer, or had some other connection to him/her. Maybe she was hired because they thought she had the perfect body and face for the job, but wanted to see how she would look with a different skin tone. There's any number of reasons they could have chosen her.

+1 Maybe she made a really great grilled cheese.

[Dr_Funkdamental]

Originally Posted by LarryO

I got a kick out of this....hope you do too
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

HIL.AR.IOUS

Maybe its sooooo funny because Ive been told almost each line and have heard others more times than I can count.

[CrispyDelicious]

Originally Posted by IconBasser

oh PLEASE no... people on here already pay WAAAAAY too much attention to racial angles on events even when there are no angles present.

the only way to stop racism is to stop pointing your finger at everything that moves and screaming "THAT'S RACIST!!!" such things only inspire backlash.

LOL

I meant to say, more along the lines of keeping the subject neatly packaged, like the worship bassist thread. I prefer my OT more light-hearted and whimsical. This is more lobby stuff, IMO.

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

I didn't say I was offended. I said I didn't get it. As Mark said, it was not some sort of idiotic blackface stunt.

I didn't mean you. I meant the entire western mediasphere. It's all good.

[MatticusMania]

Originally Posted by LarryO

I got a kick out of this....hope you do too
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Haha!

[JansenW]

OTOH I didn't think White Chicks was offensive. Keenen and Shawn, two talented comedians.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381707/

[bongomania]

I thought White Chicks was offensive because Keenan and Shawn didn't exhibit one iota of talent or actually funny comedy through the whole movie.

[casualmadness]

Originally Posted by bongomania

I thought White Chicks was offensive because Keenan and Shawn didn't exhibit one iota of talent or actually funny comedy through the whole movie.

I agree. I found it terribly offensive because it a) wasn't funny at all (my opinion) and b) They played every "white girl" stereotype. My thoughts were, "How would this play in society if it were two white guys playing black women and perpetuating the stereotypes and the movie title was "Black Chicks."
Just my opinion.

[Bassslayer69]